Russian-Ukrainian-Polish Eternal Friendship Thread

[Bacle]

Well, this is not terribly surprising; both DPR and LPR being recognized as independent by Russia moves this from a 'civil war' to a more touchy 'war of independence' situation.

Guess this means any hope of getting the Minsk Agreement to really be in force and reunite Ukraine, is effectively dead. Only question is if Putin will send Russian troops in, and what Kiev's reaction will be.

Not naive enough to believe Keiv will ever actually get control of those regions back, at this point. Wonder if the LPR and DPR will eventually merge into a 'united' East Ukraine, or if they try to remain two separate nations.

 

[Zachowon]

Well, this is not terribly surprising; both DPR and LPR being recognized as independent by Russia moves this from a 'civil war' to a more touchy 'war of independence' situation.

Guess this means any hope of getting the Minsk Agreement to really be in force and reunite Ukraine, is effectively dead. Only question is if Putin will send Russian troops in, and what Kiev's reaction will be.

Not naive enough to believe Keiv will ever actually get control of those regions back, at this point. Wonder if the LPR and DPR will eventually merge into a 'united' East Ukraine, or if they try to remain two separate nations.

If you watch on Twitter, plenty of reports of vehicles moving from Russia to Donbass

 

[Agent23]

Well, this is not terribly surprising; both DPR and LPR being recognized as independent by Russia moves this from a 'civil war' to a more touchy 'war of independence' situation.

Guess this means any hope of getting the Minsk Agreement to really be in force and reunite Ukraine, is effectively dead. Only question is if Putin will send Russian troops in, and what Kiev's reaction will be.

Not naive enough to believe Keiv will ever actually get control of those regions back, at this point. Wonder if the LPR and DPR will eventually merge into a 'united' East Ukraine, or if they try to remain two separate nations.

IMO after the dust settles they will probably ask to join Russia.

 

[Zachowon]

IMO after the dust settles they will probably ask to join Russia.

Why didn't they ask already?
Almost like it is easier to spin helping deter Ukrainian aggression over Ukrainian invasion of Russia

 

[Terthna]

Why? When the people there are literally Russian puppet states...

Because if that's what you consider them to be, then they were never not "Russian puppets". Even before the Euromaidan coup; which, let's be honest, destroyed any hope for a united Ukraine. Even if Russia had never gotten involved, the new government would have likely tried to commit genocide in the Donbass and Crimea regions; because their populations overwhelmingly supported both the government that had been overthrown, as well as closer ties to Russia (the rejection of which being what motivated the coup in the first place; partially due to a lot of people in western Ukraine simply hating Russia, but also the fact that a many of them stood to gain more financially were the country to align with NATO instead).

 

[Zachowon]

 

[Captain X]

So they're invading Ukraine...

 

[Bacle]

If you watch on Twitter, plenty of reports of vehicles moving from Russia to Donbass

I hadn't seen it on Twitter yet (keep getting sucked into playing New Vegas for hours), but not surprised.

Wonder if they actually are moving the 1st Guard Tank Army into the DPR/LPR, or just the advance units.

Because if that's what you consider them to be, then they were never not "Russian puppets". Even before the Euromaidan coup; which, let's be honest, destroyed any hope for a united Ukraine. Even if Russia had never gotten involved, the new government would have likely tried to commit genocide in the Donbass and Crimea regions; because their populations overwhelmingly supported both the government that had been overthrown, as well as closer ties to Russia (the rejection of which being what motivated the coup in the first place; partially due to a lot of people in western Ukraine simply hating Russia, but also the fact that a many of them stood to gain more financially were the country to align with NATO instead).

Eh, I think saying Kiev would have genocided them is a bit of a stretch.

Might have fucked over their local economies to make the EU happy, but I doubt genocide was ever in the cards.

Ah, 'peacekeepers'...not surprised at all.

Now we wait to see what Kiev does.

So they're invading Ukraine...

Eh, the DPR/LPR haven't really been 'Ukraine' for a few years now.

The recognition of their independence was something that happened on most level a while back; what Putin has done is just make formal what had been danced around since they re-labelled themselves the DPR/LPR.

Kiev has been fooling itself, and western media/politicians fooling their voters, into believing reunification was actually a real possibility, when the situation on the ground has been moving the opposite direct for a while.

 

[Agent23]

Why didn't they ask already?
Almost like it is easier to spin helping deter Ukrainian aggression over Ukrainian invasion of Russia

Because you will ree that it was an invasion maybe.

 

[Agent23]

It is spelled
Министерство иностранных дел Российской Федерации
where the fuck did that 'u' come from?

I call bullshit.

 

[Terthna]

Eh, I think saying Kiev would have genocided them is a bit of a stretch.

Might have fucked over their local economies to make the EU happy, but I doubt genocide was ever in the cards.

A lot of people in the regions would have died regardless, especially once it became obvious that their western allies didn't care.

 

[Agent23]

A lot of people in the regions would have died regardless, especially once it became obvious that their western allies didn't care.

Remind me, how much was the tax on that tea you got pissed about and threw into Boston harbor while cosplaying as Siberian Migrants?
Edit: Sorry, was asking @Bacle

 

[Terthna]

Remind me, how much was the tax on that tea you got pissed about and threw into Boston harbor while cosplaying as Siberian Migrants?

You know, people always focus on the tea tax; when in reality, it was just another straw on the camel's back. Of which there were several when revolution finally broke out.

 

[Agent23]

You know, people always focus on the tea tax; when in reality, it was just another straw on the camel's back. Of which there were several when revolution finally broke out.

I know, I've read "1775, A great year for revolution."
But all of what the British did was economic damage as well.

Also, I think you underestimate the animosity between the Holodomor-pushers/Banderites and the pro-Russian parts of the population.

Yes, there was a genocide, but it was against kulaks in general, not Ukrainians in particular, so basically collectivism vs. freedom.

 

[Zachowon]

It is spelled
Министерство иностранных дел Российской Федерации
where the fuck did that 'u' come from?

I call bullshit.

From what a Serbian is telling me.
It isn't in default case, it is in accusative, so the O turns into a U

 

[Agent23]

From what a Serbian is telling me.
It isn't in default case, it is in accusative, so the O turns into a U

It is supposed to be a Russian document, not a Serbain one, also Serbs, being the unwashed mongrel goatfucking barbarians they are, they actually commit great sacrilege of using latin characters with the cyrilic ones, msy they all fuck their motehrs!(Note for pizdets Brandon fanbois, this is sarcastic humor!)
This is it in Serbian:
Министарство спољних послова Руске Федерације
Look, look at this sacrilege.

 

[Zachowon]

 

[Agent23]

Considering the quality of your other posts I will just let the Trumpster speak for me:

 

[Bacle]

A lot of people in the regions would have died regardless, especially once it became obvious that their western allies didn't care.

Maybe, but now that Russian troops seem to be crossing the border, that's not as likely to happen.

It's Kiev's move now, however not Kiev's

Considering the quality of your other posts I will just let the Trumpster speak for me:

Dude, lay off it.

I doubted it for a long while.

The new bridges near Chernobyl changed the equation, as did the First Guards being there and now the recognition of the DRP/LPR independence. Peacekeepers are moving in, now we see how things go from here.

We are waiting on Kiev's move now.

 

[Zachowon]

Considering the quality of your other posts I will just let the Trumpster speak for me:

Besides the fact there are multiple people on the ground with video evidence and besides the fact Putin himself has said they are sending "Peacekeeping" forces into the DNR...

Man, almost like I know what I am doing and don't blind suci off Russia