HistoryMinor
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As a star wars fan, I hate star wars fans. Just unplug and wait a couple days. There'll be plenty of time to bitch after Christmas.
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AspblastUSA
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I'll be outback of town on holiday after Christmas. I have to get my bitching in now while I have the time.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
There are a probably a bunch of people around him saying that fans don’t like the new movies because he’s black or something.
Speaking of Finn, the character has gotten such a raw deal. Conceptually the character is really interesting. A Stormtrooper raised from childhood to fight and kill for the First Order, then leaving them when he sees the atrocities they commit. He’s got the most interesting backstory in the sequel trilogy. If they really delved into that, it would make for great storytelling and character development. But no. Finn becomes a bumbling sidekick for Ma-Rey Sue. A man trained from childhood to be a soldier but he just works sanitation? Someone with the strength of character to leave the organization that indoctrinated him from early childhood, but he tries to run away until Rose shames him.
Mammy from Gone With the Wind is a more dignified and respectable supporting character than Finn.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I honestly thought that Clone Troopers and Storm Troopers were the same thing
Also, they’re not white, they’re whatever ethnicity Jango Fett was
I wonder how he would react honestly if he realised that was what they were complaining about.....will probably decide that he can’t do anything but follow Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy’s will
ShieldWife
Marchioness
First Order Stormtroopers aren’t clones, they are taken as babies and raised by the First Order. Which is how they can be genetically diverse.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I was referring to The Empire’s Stormtroopers
I don’t think too many people even know of the Expanded Universe for info on the old and new canon
Bigking321
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The empire were never clones just conscripted.
After the prequels came out they changed it to whatever remnants of the clone armies were the base but no new clones were made and from then on it was conscripts.
After the prequels came out they changed it to whatever remnants of the clone armies were the base but no new clones were made and from then on it was conscripts.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Nice to know, also I repeat, I think the majority of people NEVER catch onto anything of the expanded universe
It’s mostly just the movies, anything else doesn’t pop under their radar
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Since Wookieepedia was founded I think that assertion is quite unfounded. Which was more than a decade ago.
They could have... If Disney had bothered to use the EU properly in the movies.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Kathleen Kennedy said that they ran out of material or something....bullshit
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
That statement made me laugh pretty hard.
Yeah, admittedly most of my inference that people only know Star Wars from the original movies is references by characters in fiction. Yes, very dumb.
Though I think same can be said for Marvel/DC, most people just know superheroes from the Live Action TV Shows, the Movies and Memes or the fact that specific ones are known through pop culture osmosis
You may never have read a superhero comic, but you can tell who’s who just by looking at em
Having watched some of mauler's other stuff the reason it's so long is because Mauler prefers to go into as much detail as possible and leave these reviews to be as definitive as possible so people don't go "well, what about X, you didn't mention that!" and try to nitpick it to death. Combine that with a relatively slow rate of speech compared to the average, and the sheer number of issues (and the need to explain those issues and why they're issues in detail), and you get this.
Can we just call JJ Abrams the new M. Night Shyamalan at this point? He made a few hits that seemed great but it soon became apparent that he was utter shit and essentially a complete fraud?
Certified_Heterosexual
The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
I just had kind of an interesting thought regarding the sequel trilogy that I wanted to share. I stumbled upon a conversation about The Last Jedi that held out an interesting alternate interpretation of what Luke is up to: the idea that him waiting on his island alone to die is just an act.
See, the Jedi are in part modeled after Zen monks, and it's standard Zen Buddhist practice to test a spiritual seekers' commitment by annoying and discouraging them as much as possible. The same can be said of Luke’s claim that he simply came to his planet to die. Obviously that was a lie, since Force Awakens was all about getting ahold of the map he left so people could find him in case of an emergency. Feeling guilt over Kylo's situation might be part of the motivation for staying so isolated, but refusing to train more Jedi might have just been a test, to make sure that anyone who eventually found him was as worthy and committed as could possibly be.
See, maybe his failure to restart the Jedi from a central Temple only disillusioned Luke on one particular model of restoring the Jedi. Luke's failure with Kylo may have just impressed upon him that he was just repeating the Old Jedi's mistakes, and that a more decentralized sage-centric approach might work better. Perhaps one or two Force-sensitives in the past had already found the map to his hideaway before Rey did, trained a bit with Luke, and are just seeded across the galaxy fighting anonymously against evil like they did during the Dark Times. Rather than having one central hierarchical Temple again, the New Jedi Order stays on the outskirts, helping on a small scale and in secret.
I'm sure that the TLJ novelization contradicts this theory, but it's just about the only interpretation of his arc that actually makes sense to me. Even if it's only headcanon, it's more tolerable to my sensibilities than what we got. Not to mention, a cool premise for fan fiction.
See, the Jedi are in part modeled after Zen monks, and it's standard Zen Buddhist practice to test a spiritual seekers' commitment by annoying and discouraging them as much as possible. The same can be said of Luke’s claim that he simply came to his planet to die. Obviously that was a lie, since Force Awakens was all about getting ahold of the map he left so people could find him in case of an emergency. Feeling guilt over Kylo's situation might be part of the motivation for staying so isolated, but refusing to train more Jedi might have just been a test, to make sure that anyone who eventually found him was as worthy and committed as could possibly be.
See, maybe his failure to restart the Jedi from a central Temple only disillusioned Luke on one particular model of restoring the Jedi. Luke's failure with Kylo may have just impressed upon him that he was just repeating the Old Jedi's mistakes, and that a more decentralized sage-centric approach might work better. Perhaps one or two Force-sensitives in the past had already found the map to his hideaway before Rey did, trained a bit with Luke, and are just seeded across the galaxy fighting anonymously against evil like they did during the Dark Times. Rather than having one central hierarchical Temple again, the New Jedi Order stays on the outskirts, helping on a small scale and in secret.
I'm sure that the TLJ novelization contradicts this theory, but it's just about the only interpretation of his arc that actually makes sense to me. Even if it's only headcanon, it's more tolerable to my sensibilities than what we got. Not to mention, a cool premise for fan fiction.
ShadowsOfParadox
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see, no matter how you rationalize the rest of Luke in TLJ, this part still makes no goddamn sense and needs a trilogy of it's own just to explain how the fething hells the guy who looked at DARTH FETHING VADER and said "I can see light in you still" turned into "I see a shred of darkness... do I kill it?"
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Was there any official baby yoda toys? I heard Disney didn't offer it so bootlegs made a profit.
Bigking321
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Based of what I've been hearing so far, people that were saying the sequel trilogy has issues might be annoyingly smug in a few days.
Honestly thinking about going to see it now just to know what will be setting the internet on fire.
Honestly thinking about going to see it now just to know what will be setting the internet on fire.
LifeisTiresome
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Why do you want to feed Disney money?
You do know pirates will have this movie out online, right? Just watch the pirated shit. Don't feed the mouse.