Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News

Rocinante

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Sorry. Didn't mean to imply they would go out of business or anything.

Just that their ratings would drop significantly.
Yeah it certainly does not seem to be doing anything good for them

 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Yeah it certainly does not seem to be doing anything good for them


Good! The more the uniparty's control methods are damaged the better.
 

Sergeant Foley

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Ah suddenly a lot makes sense.

I knew that fox was anti Trump. The kids that took over are really really establishment. They hated whenever anyone talked about the election fraud or any serious anti establishment stuff and Tucker was one of the main ones doing it. They shut down a lot of reports that would make the establishment look bad. Tucker was allegedly going to release more Jan 6th footage but after that first bit they squashed that.

So they settled the dominion suit instead of fighting to try and quash any talk of the 2020 election and are using it as a excuse to get rid of their most popular guy that they hated. Because they couldn't just fire him for no reason.

I wonder how long they've been planning this? Certainly before dominion launched their lawsuit. They didn't really have a case so they must have known ahead of time fox wouldn't even fight it.

It cost them a lot of money but apparently they think firing their biggest draw was worth it.

What idiots. This has a good chance of tanking their network.
Some of whom want DeSantis, who was in Japan doing "Economic trade mission". Plus next on his travel list:
*Republic of Korea
*Israel
*United Kingdom
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Some of whom want DeSantis, who was in Japan doing "Economic trade mission". Plus next on his travel list:
*Republic of Korea
*Israel
*United Kingdom

DeSantis is basically Richard Nixon 2.0

And I say this as someone who admires tricky Dick and his strategies and his tactics. But honestly why in the hell would anyone want another big government, internationalist right now?

Americans need to be rebelling against globalism, global involvement and the exportation of our wealth. Not supporting it
 

Bacle

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Meh, not sorry to see him go after how many times he uncritically regurgitated Russian propaganda about Ukraine, or after how many times he's acted as ridiculous 'controlled opposition' to make the Right look even more farcical.

Tucker only cares about his own ratings and PR; any help to others is a secondary effect of his own desire to soothe/push his ego.
 

Agent23

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Fox has chosen to get rid of their most popular news man

Wr shouldn't thing of this as a grave for Fox, it is the future they chose.

Fox Corporation sheds $930 million in market value after announcing Tucker Carlson is leaving the news network

This is literally Fox saying to Disney and NF "hols my beer".

They lost almost a BILLION in stock value because they fired one man.

And I doubt Tucker will take this lying down, if he goes to their competitors or even gets a small team of like minded people together he can probably take away more of their audience.

If anything, it will be lovely to see him completely unshackled and with an axe to grind.
 

Typhonis

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Wr shouldn't thing of this as a grave for Fox, it is the future they chose.

Fox Corporation sheds $930 million in market value after announcing Tucker Carlson is leaving the news network

This is literally Fox saying to Disney and NF "hols my beer".

They lost almost a BILLION in stock value because they fired one man.

And I doubt Tucker will take this lying down, if he goes to their competitors or even gets a small team of like minded people together he can probably take away more of their audience.

If anything, it will be lovely to see him completely unshackled and with an axe to grind.
Do stocks have value? As in does Fox stock actually pay out a dividend or is the value in owning it?
 

f1onagher

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Not the biggest fan of Tucker, but this hurts Fox far worse than it does him. All the people celebrating that he can no longer use Cable as a platform are fools. Cable is a dying medium and Tucker could easily replicate half to two-thirds of his audience on a podcast. If I were a betting man I would say it's part of a mutual ceasefire deal on the part of major media companies to try and drag political discourse away from the edges. It'll fail, Murchoch and his peers have far less influence than they think, but hey, at least Whitehall will have fewer Tucker clips to flip out over.
 

f1onagher

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It's amazing to me how much Fox seems to WANT to become part of the MSM...
Always has. Fox and Murdoch don't give the beginning of a fuck about politics, it was always about market share for them and that requires at least a minimal amount of coordination with the ideological opposites. Heck, the Dominion leaks reveal that Fox is more scared of OAN and NewsMax than their fellow legacy outlets.
Big question is who'll get the 7:00 PM CST slot on Fox News Channel?
A.) Jesse Watters
B.) Dana Perino
C.) Bill Hemmer
D.) The Field
More accurate question: Who cares? Tucker was barely worth watching in YouTube clips, do you think anyone outside of immobile retirees will watch whatever no-name they replace him with?

I'm guessing Tucker Carlson will fade away from the mainstream since his words will no longer be distributed to millions and millions of people via one of the biggest news networks. Sure, he might be able to join a smaller news outlet or setup his own show or podcast, but he isn't going to reach anywhere near as many people.
I remember when Joe Rogan disappeared from the mainstream too. Tucker won't be inflicted on left-wing forums that still feed from the Legacy Media's table nearly as often, but he'll likely still reach around half of his audience at a minimum. I don't care for Tucker, but he has a Name and that's frequently more important than actual talent. Look at the success of the Daily Wire and Breaking Points if you want examples.
 

Husky_Khan

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Big question is who'll get the 7:00 PM CST slot on Fox News Channel?
A.) Jesse Watters
B.) Dana Perino
C.) Bill Hemmer
D.) The Field

Jesse Watters is the only one that makes sense IMHO. He's the most pundit of the bunch. Bill Hemmer is too news readery and Dana Perino is too much of a policy wonk. Jesse Watters has a more colorful personality that allows him to be a proper pundit/commentator.

Laura Ingraham might make sense as well. Maybe Mark Levin. Talk Radio types who can throw bombs and stir up interest.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
Who cares? Tucker was barely worth watching in YouTube clips, do you think anyone outside of immobile retirees will watch whatever no-name they replace him with?
1. Apparently a lot of people care.
2. Tucker was actually more interesting in the full clips. I'm kinda done with the sound bites, they tend to lie.
3. Some will, probably not as many as Fox would like.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Meh, not sorry to see him go after how many times he uncritically regurgitated Russian propaganda about Ukraine, or after how many times he's acted as ridiculous 'controlled opposition' to make the Right look even more farcical.

Tucker only cares about his own ratings and PR; any help to others is a secondary effect of his own desire to soothe/push his ego.

Lmao.

Tucker's gonna continue to succeed in rage-pilling Americans on Eastern Europe and actually having an impact on polling and national policy over on Rumble or Sirius or whevere he goes.

And it's gonna be amazing.

Always has. Fox and Murdoch don't give the beginning of a fuck about politics, it was always about market share for them and that requires at least a minimal amount of coordination with the ideological opposites. Heck, the Dominion leaks reveal that Fox is more scared of OAN and NewsMax than their fellow legacy outlets.

Pretty much this, recall Ailes hired Sean Hannity over Michael Savage and O'Reily over Limbaugh specifically to contain populism.

It was always a globalist grift
 

Husky_Khan

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Tucker Carlson was pretty popular with similar demographics that regularly watch Cable News, so older Americans. Not just strictly Boomers, unless by Boomers you mean anyone like thirty plus. But he was very quotable (and much ree'd) by younger people as well. I never saw a single full show of Tucker's but his content was shared here a lot, and there are clips of him all over social media after all. So he had a presence. Probably larger than any other Conservative talking head.

And unlike Bill O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson I guess both had broader audiences and more ways to reach them then just television. Bill O'Reilly's older audience wasn't going to follow him to niche internet channels and random ass Cable Networks or hunt for clips of him on YouTube. Unless he was on a major Cable News station and/or Radio, his audience is lost.

If Tucker goes somewhere else, he'll have a lot more people following him. I don't think there's any platform that will reach as many people (at present) as Fox News did for him and he'll lose a lot of his TV watching audience because they won't download and follow him on Rumble or even YouTube.

But he'll still get hundreds of thousands of people following him wherever he ends up.

With that all said, I don't see him becoming "talent" for OANN, or Newsmax or joining Blaze or Daily Wire or anything. He's too big. He'll go independent IMHO (maybe on Rumble/YouTube/Podcasting etc) or found something new, maybe in partnership with other people.

Keep in mind when Joe Rogan moved to Spotify, he lost thousands, tens of thousands of viewers, but he still has a big presence even if far, far, far less people are watching his podcast directly. Tucker Carlson is easily the right wing equivalent of Joe Rogan. He's not going to disappear like Bill O'Reilly (whose the closest analogue to Tucker since Tucker basically replaced him) did.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
He's repeatedly said in multiple podcasts with people like Carola and the full send clowns and expressed that he thought they made the right decision in fucking off to be part of alt media.

I get the impression he's been floating this for a while. I half expect to see him on something like Fresh and Fit soon, testing out his viability. 🤣🤣
 
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ShieldWife

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This is infuriating. But this dark cloud could have a silver lining. Tucker is amazingly popular and has made a real difference in Red Pilling Fox News viewers in the last few years. Seeing him cancelled like that is going to be another giant red pill to millions of his viewers, showing them that they an alternative to the mainstream media.

If Tucker can throw his weight and considerable fan base behind an alternative news source, maybe with an alliance with other alternative voices, then it might deal a major blow the establishment media.

Some conservative boomers and Neo-Cons will still watch Fox News - but the future of conservative media is going to belong to the alternative media and Tucker is the man to lead that.
 

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