Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News

[Vyor]

You don’t get to rebel or join up with enemy nations if you don’t like the president. It does not work like that.

It literally does work like that. Explicitly in the constitution it works like that.

I'm pretty damn sure that if he gets charged with something, it won't be for going to first random money exchange and buying some rubles like any ordinary person would (which seems to be the random ass guess based strawman you are clobbering so hard).
But what we know little of, the man had business dealings with Russian state owned entities in the past, and we have no idea how this interview was set up legally, but more likely than not there was some sort of contract, and that might be something going against the sanctions.
And if he doesn't get charged, in that case it's just yet another case of journos making a bullshit story.

I don't even think he should be charged because the spirit of the law is aimed at curbing companies and corporations, not individuals.

That said, if his company got lots of money from Russia (or the other way around) then that would be something to smack him hard for. Because Russia is literally just straight up an enemy of the USA, no different than HAMAS.

 

[King Arts]

It literally does work like that. Explicitly in the constitution it works like that.

What? lol no show where in the constitution it says you can rebel or join a foreign nation against the US if you don’t like the president.

I don't even think he should be charged because the spirit of the law is aimed at curbing companies and corporations, not individuals.

That said, if his company got lots of money from Russia (or the other way around) then that would be something to smack him hard for. Because Russia is literally just straight up an enemy of the USA, no different than HAMAS.

What the heck this sounds somewhat reasonable what’s up with your earlier thing then?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

OK, simple question...have we seen what the actual charges are?

 

[Vyor]

What? lol no show where in the constitution it says you can rebel or join a foreign nation against the US if you don’t like the president.

Is not the Declaration of Independence part of the constitution?

What the heck this sounds somewhat reasonable what’s up with your earlier thing then?

Perhaps it's that your statements are insane rather than mine being unreasonable?

Bacle was making an argument based on Law, that's it. That's the entire premise of the argument. The law says "x" gets "y" punishment, Tucker did "x" and therefore should get "y" punishment. It's simple.

OK, simple question...have we seen what the actual charges are?

Yeah they're "non-existence" and "404 error"

 

[King Arts]

Is not the Declaration of Independence part of the constitution?


Perhaps it's that your statements are insane rather than mine being unreasonable?

Bacle was making an argument based on Law, that's it. That's the entire premise of the argument. The law says "x" gets "y" punishment, Tucker did "x" and therefore should get "y" punishment. It's simple.


Yeah they're "non-existence" and "404 error"

You really don’t know what you’re talking about. No the Declaration of Independence is a separate document from the constitution.

Also Bacle did more than just state what the law is he defended the law.

 

[mrttao]

If the legitimate president

define legitimate president.

 

[King Arts]

define legitimate president.

Voted into office and has the constitutional right to be president aka natural born citizen.

I know with the current one there are questions because of the way the past election was where there are questions about the legitimacy.

But basically as long as the president is really the president he is for the most part in charge of foreign affairs and has even more power if congress supports him to be friendly or hostile to any other country.

The Supreme Court looks at the constitution and can say if the legislature or executive has overstepped their powers in domestic affairs because the judiciary does have power domestically. But the judicial branch has almost no powers in foreign affairs.

So people can’t say their rights are violated and go against the government if the nation either Allie’s with or gets into conflict with foreigners.

 

[Husky_Khan]

OK, simple question...have we seen what the actual charges are?

There are no charges. Tucker Carlson said he might be facing arrest on Lex Fridmans podcast for going to Russia.

Then people made a joke he's going to spend ten thousand years in the Gulag for smuggling Russian bread from a grocery store into America.

Now Rashida Tlaib is President, King Arts "fell" off a cliff and Bacle is stuck in Israel with all of the other filthy traitors.

 

[Bacle]

The mask slips

What mask?

My views on this issue and Tucker's actions are not exactly 'hidden', nor is my reasoning on the issue hard to follow.

This has been his position for the entire time I've known him.

There is no mask.

You are making shit up.

I think they just want to 'meme' about the issue, not actually engage with reality that Tucker is not immune to the laws around sanctions violations.

You really don’t know what you’re talking about. No the Declaration of Independence is a separate document from the constitution.

Also Bacle did more than just state what the law is he defended the law.

Yes, I defended the law, because sanctions on Russia are enormously justified given what Russia has done in Ukraine and elsewhere (looking at aid to Hamas), and individuals/groups/companies that violate those sanctions should be hit.

 

[Vyor]

Also Bacle did more than just state what the law is he defended the law.

And what about the law is wrong?

 

[King Arts]

And what about the law is wrong?

I already went over how it’s wrong and the government is overstepping its authority by shadow banning something.

 

[Vyor]

I already went over how it’s wrong and the government is overstepping its authority by shadow banning something.

They aren't "shadow banning" jack shit. They published the rules for everyone to see. Shadow banning would imply they both didn't do that and didn't make public who was being punished for breaking said rules.

 

[King Arts]

They aren't "shadow banning" jack shit. They published the rules for everyone to see. Shadow banning would imply they both didn't do that and didn't make public who was being punished for breaking said rules.

Ok I’ll walk it slowly with you before this people were saying Tucker had a right as an American to go to Russia and interview Putin do you dispute the fact that Americans have a right to travel to any other countries?

Ok assuming now that we established that he had a right to go to Russia, Tucker Carlson is a human he requires sustenance aka food. So he needs to be able to buy food.

Arresting Tucker because he bought a loaf of bread in a foreign country is basically indirectly prohibiting people from going to that country since bringing in food is very difficult.

What you are doing is the same thing liberals do when they argue “ok you have a right to own guns in the 2nd amendment, but it says nothing about ammunition so we will ban all ownership of ammo and bullets.”

Yeah nice try I don’t give a fuck about the letter of the law I value the spirit more.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Arresting Tucker because he bought a loaf of bread in a foreign country is basically indirectly prohibiting people from going to that country since bringing in food is very difficult.

Oh dear. It looks like you either misread the original posts and jokes or were arguing against a strawman the entire time which you deluded yourself into thinking was an actual argument made. Shocking... just absolutely shocking that this could happen.

 

[King Arts]

Oh dear. It looks like you either misread the original posts and jokes or were arguing against a strawman the entire time which you deluded yourself into thinking was an actual argument made. Shocking... just absolutely shocking that this could happen.

Please be serious and direct. I know you were joking about bread gulags or whatever.

But people were saying that Tucker Carlson would be arrested for sanctions violations because he went to a Russian grocery store and bought food. I was saying that if that happens that is bullshit.

 

[Blasterbot]

Oh dear. It looks like you either misread the original posts and jokes or were arguing against a strawman the entire time which you deluded yourself into thinking was an actual argument made. Shocking... just absolutely shocking that this could happen.

TBF the arguments are at least 50% memes at this point from both sides. if he gets charged and they end up dropped or a minor fine I don't care and I doubt it will matter beyond kvetching on the internet. if they push for more serious penalties it would be clearly political and just be to get Tucker and quash a populist voice. which would be in line with what I expect from the establishment but would not be good for political stability in the USA.

 

[Husky_Khan]

TBF the arguments are at least 50% memes at this point from both sides. if he gets charged and they end up dropped or a minor fine I don't care and I doubt it will matter beyond kvetching on the internet. if they push for more serious penalties it would be clearly political and just be to get Tucker and quash a populist voice. which would be in line with what I expect from the establishment but would not be good for political stability in the USA.

Yeah it's just I looked back and the serious comment Bacle made was about Tucker being caught in some financial scheme with a sanctioned Russian bank or company, not for buying bread in a grocery store. It could be interpreted as pretty mild and prosaic issue and thus more obviously politically motivated, but it's still a pretty broad statement initially made.

 

[49ersfootball]

No, he wants ratings.

That said, such isn't a crime.

Maria Bartiromo still Teflon on Fox Business Network.

 

[Blasterbot]

Yeah it's just I looked back and the serious comment Bacle made was about Tucker being caught in some financial scheme with a sanctioned Russian bank or company, not for buying bread in a grocery store. It could be interpreted as pretty mild and prosaic issue and thus more obviously politically motivated, but it's still a pretty broad statement initially made.

If he had to drop a million in graft that would be bad. if he had to convert some funds to pay for things for him and his crew out of pocket while there? that would be expected.

 

[Vyor]

Ok I’ll walk it slowly with you before this people were saying Tucker had a right as an American to go to Russia and interview Putin do you dispute the fact that Americans have a right to travel to any other countries?

We straight up do not have that as a right. No one has a "right" to just travel to other countries, that's never been a thing that exists. That's why we having fucking borders.