United States US presidential election 2024

[49ersfootball]

Everyone: Please give my cousin @Sergeant Foley a moment of silence as FL Governor Ron DeSantis (R) officially drops out of the 2024 GOP Presidential nomination contest & endorsed former President Donald Trump.

Will DeSantis make a comeback in 2028 & win the Presidency?
A.) YES
B.) NO
C.) TBD

DeSantis officially a lame-duck as his Governorship will end on January 5th, 2027 due to being prevented from succeeding himself for 3rd consecutive term due to term limits.

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[49ersfootball]

The ramifications of FL Governor Ron DeSantis (R) dropping out of the 2024 GOP Presidential nomination contest tells me Trump is heading back to the White House on January 20th, 2025.

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[StormEagle]

That’s the primary wrapped up then.

Unless the GOP actually want to commit party suicide and pull some shenanigans at the convention, Trump will be the nominee.

 

[49ersfootball]

That’s the primary wrapped up then.

Unless the GOP actually want to commit party suicide and pull some shenanigans at the convention, Trump will be the nominee.

Trump basically heading back into the White House.

 

[mrttao]

Will DeSantis make a comeback in 2028 & win the Presidency?
A.) YES
B.) NO
C.) TBD

hard to tell. there is vivek to consider.
plus unforseen circumstances like assassins.

That’s the primary wrapped up then.

Unless the GOP actually want to commit party suicide and pull some shenanigans at the convention, Trump will be the nominee.

the bigger question is how they will handle the inevitable election fraud.
trump already won two presidencies. but only served one

 

[49ersfootball]

hard to tell. there is vivek to consider.
plus unforseen circumstances like assassins.

the bigger question is how they will handle the inevitable election fraud.
trump already won two presidencies. but only served one

DeSantis is 45 years old. 2028 is around the corner.

 

[VictortheMonarch]

Trump promises to use Title 42 to return all trafficked children back to their families.

 

[Blasterbot]

DeSantis is 45 years old. 2028 is around the corner.

He burned a lot of political capitol and looked really bad during this run. odds are if he still wants to be president he needs to do what Biden did and give it a decade or so before running again for people to forget how bad he was.

 

[mrttao]

DeSantis is 45 years old. 2028 is around the corner.

what does his age have to do with assassins? election fraud? possible civil war?

 

[ShieldWife]

DeSantis should wait until 2028 to run. He's still a young man, he could have a long political career in front of him. If he runs against Trump now, he will be forever tainted as the guy the establishment used to undermine Trump. If he's wise he should stand aside and back Trump in 2024 and build trust with the people he'll need for his 2028 run.

That was me from April. I think that I was right. It turns out that his charisma was a little lower than I expected. This run certainly hurt his political career.

 

[Abhorsen]

That was me from April. I think that I was right. It turns out that his charisma was a little lower than I expected. This run certainly hurt his political career.

I think there's a reasonable argument that this was really his only chance, and he won't be in the running next time. He'd have 2 years where he wasn't governor anymore, which would take him out of the national conversation for too long.

I think he basically had a hail mary shot at best, and it was a use it or lose it situation. Right now, he's stuck with nowhere to go. 2 decently well liked senators are in his way to swapping out for another job, and a representative is a step down.

 

[Poe]

I think there's a reasonable argument that this was really his only chance, and he won't be in the running next time. He'd have 2 years where he wasn't governor anymore, which would take him out of the national conversation for too long.

I think he basically had a hail mary shot at best, and it was a use it or lose it situation. Right now, he's stuck with nowhere to go. 2 decently well liked senators are in his way to swapping out for another job, and a representative is a step down.

Hard disagree. He's got a ton of brand recognition as a MAGA republican and potential Trump successor. He founded the freedom caucus and then went on to be the most successful conservative governor in the culture war and he's a veteran. If he had the endorsement of Trump he'd sweep the nation. The only reason people here think he somehow fell flat was Trumps attacks, without those he'd still be polling as high as he was before summer where he was actually beating Trump in some polls.

 

[Zachowon]

2028 for DeSantis would be best

 

[Blasterbot]

Hard disagree. He's got a ton of brand recognition as a MAGA republican and potential Trump successor. He founded the freedom caucus and then went on to be the most successful conservative governor in the culture war and he's a veteran. If he had the endorsement of Trump he'd sweep the nation. The only reason people here think he somehow fell flat was Trumps attacks, without those he'd still be polling as high as he was before summer where he was actually beating Trump in some polls.

not really. you can argue he was a founding member of the caucus but not the founder of it. his record in congress was pretty meh overall though. as a governor he was unremarkable until he got a supermajority that he could take credit from. his culture war aspect was pretty good for a while but has been backfiring from time to time and has alienated the more moderate members of the party. meaning he lost the ability to say he was trump without the issues. he is polling like he was because of two reasons. he ran arguably the shittiest presidential primary we have seen. Trump being politically prosecuted as he has means if the Republicans don't push him the Dems will always have the option for political lawfare to choose the republican candidate.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Well, that is it for me as far as Party Presidential Canidates go. I didn't feel like Ron was ideal or perfect, but like hell am I voting for Haley, beyond that I voted for Trump twice and that is enough given his behavior.

I guess I probably will vote write in this year.

 

[Poe]

not really. you can argue he was a founding member of the caucus but not the founder of it.

You're being pedantic and arguing semantics. He was a founder of it, a member of its first board of directors

as a governor he was unremarkable until he got a supermajority that he could take credit from.

As governor he was reelected by a huge margin, all governors require a majority so it isn't taking credit its part of our system

his culture war aspect was pretty good for a while but has been backfiring from time to time and has alienated the more moderate members of the party. meaning he lost the ability to say he was trump without the issues.

I can agree with this

he is polling like he was because of two reasons. he ran arguably the shittiest presidential primary we have seen.

Regardless of how you feel there are a handful of people in this cycle who very clearly ran worse campaigns

Trump being politically prosecuted as he has means if the Republicans don't push him the Dems will always have the option for political lawfare to choose the republican candidate.

Yes agree, but that's not anything he had control of

2028 for DeSantis would be best

Definitely agree. Regardless at least the GOP primaries are competitive and actually reflect the will of the party members

 

[ShieldWife]

I think there's a reasonable argument that this was really his only chance, and he won't be in the running next time. He'd have 2 years where he wasn't governor anymore, which would take him out of the national conversation for too long.

I think he basically had a hail mary shot at best, and it was a use it or lose it situation. Right now, he's stuck with nowhere to go. 2 decently well liked senators are in his way to swapping out for another job, and a representative is a step down.

You make a good point. I wonder if it might have been better for him to try to cozy up to Trump in an attempt to become VP. That could have kept him in the spotlight.

Well, that is it for me as far as Party Presidential Canidates go. I didn't feel like Ron was ideal or perfect, but like hell am I voting for Haley, beyond that I voted for Trump twice and that is enough given his behavior.

I guess I probably will vote write in this year.

Why not Trump? If not Trump, why not Libertarian?

 

[Zachowon]

You're being pedantic and arguing semantics. He was a founder of it, a member of its first board of directors

As governor he was reelected by a huge margin, all governors require a majority so it isn't taking credit its part of our system

I can agree with this

Regardless of how you feel there are a handful of people in this cycle who very clearly ran worse campaigns

Yes agree, but that's not anything he had control of

Definitely agree. Regardless at least the GOP primaries are competitive and actually reflect the will of the party members

That is the biggesybthing about thr GOP ones.
It will be competitive

 

[Blasterbot]

His first term he barely was able to win with the dem getting hit with a major scandel and Trump backing him hard. people have memory holed it but Ron was always bad at campaigning. Florida just became the go to refugee place to flee from blue states during covid. that and him being associated with Trump was what carried him to his big reelection win.

you can argue others have run worse. but they had nowhere near the resources and investment that he did. DW, Fox, Dave Rubin, so many others, Hundreds of millions in donor money that would have absolutely made a huge impact in the general or down ballot races. All we got to show for it was a very distant 2nd place in the 1st caucus. and to do this he had to change laws in Florida to run and roll over his old funds into this new campaign. He has been ignoring issues in Florida for this run and the locals are pissed about it.

 

[Bacle]

Well, that is it for me as far as Party Presidential Canidates go. I didn't feel like Ron was ideal or perfect, but like hell am I voting for Haley, beyond that I voted for Trump twice and that is enough given his behavior.

I guess I probably will vote write in this year.

I think you should wait till we see who Trump's VP is before giving up on Trump.

Remember, a lot of Trump's issues in his term came from Pence sabotaging Trump's personnel picks, and likely being the source of many leaks out of the White House.

The right VP could make all the difference in whether Trump is effective or not; someone who will back Trump when he's right, but also tell him when he's being stupid about something, would be ideal.