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China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Scottty

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Something that got shared with me on social media:


It seems that in the UK, if you are elderly and die of natural causes, your death will be automatically attributed to Covid-19. No matter if you were infected or not. No matter if you really died of something totally different. The NHS are under orders to mark every single case as Covid.

This sort of thing is going to lead to serious distrust of public institutions, if they've been deliberately falsifying medical data.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Something that got shared with me on social media:


It seems that in the UK, if you are elderly and die of natural causes, your death will be automatically attributed to Covid-19. No matter if you were infected or not. No matter if you really died of something totally different. The NHS are under orders to mark every single case as Covid.

This sort of thing is going to lead to serious distrust of public institutions, if they've been deliberately falsifying medical data.

...I hope that's just some conspiracy theory nonsense; because if that's actually happening, it's going to cause even more people to think that the Corona virus isn't something to be taken seriously.
 

Lord Sovereign

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it's true. It's also one of many reasons why no-one is listening to anything the NHS and government are saying anymore.

There's a reason most shops and schools are opening up again in June and July. The Government has not only realised just how badly Neil Ferguson got it wrong, they also know that the public are quickly running out of patience with them. It's become obvious now that Wuhan-Flu is not nearly as dangerous as we thought, and no amount of media hysteria can change that.

In all honesty, I hope lessons are learned from this. In so far as the Brits will distrust big daddy government a good deal more, and perhaps ask why it has so much power in the first place. A man can dream.
 

Iconoclast

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Obozny
COVID-19 has apparently killed 98,717 of my fellow Americans in just a couple months. That's all the deaths from a bad flu season in one-quarter the time, and even with ridiculous lockdowns on top of everything else. That's a fatality rate of 20.6% in the resolved cases, and 5.9% overall.

And the 'it came from the lab' hypothesis gets another tick mark.

China should be forced to pay for the medical bills, lost wages, and the economic damage they have done to the rest of the world.

That's not proof it came from a lab. This is:



It binds to human cells far, far better than animal cells. Like it was designed to do so. This was no zoonotic disease. This thing came out of a fucking test tube.

There's a reason most shops and schools are opening up again in June and July. The Government has not only realised just how badly Neil Ferguson got it wrong, they also know that the public are quickly running out of patience with them. It's become obvious now that Wuhan-Flu is not nearly as dangerous as we thought, and no amount of media hysteria can change that.

In all honesty, I hope lessons are learned from this. In so far as the Brits will distrust big daddy government a good deal more, and perhaps ask why it has so much power in the first place. A man can dream.

Anything that drives distrust in big government is a win in my book, but we must still be cautious. A gain-of-function pathogen with many unknown properties is in the wild, still.
 

Vaermina

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COVID-19 has apparently killed 98,717 of my fellow Americans in just a couple months. That's all the deaths from a bad flu season in one-quarter the time, and even with ridiculous lockdowns on top of everything else. That's a fatality rate of 20.6% in the resolved cases, and 5.9% overall.
The overall fatality rate of the symptomatic is only about 1.3%, the key words there however are "of the symptomatic", as the virus has a non-symptomatic rate of something like 50%, which means we are actually looking at something like an overall 0.65% fatality rate.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
Anything that drives distrust in big government is a win in my book, but we must still be cautious. A gain-of-function pathogen with many unknown properties is in the wild, still.

Coronavirus is contagious as all balls, which is why there are so many deaths. When, in all likelihood, it has blown through millions already, it is no shock that tens of thousands have died. With that in mind however, when thousands die out of millions (even without discounting people who die of random shit being labelled as Covid-19 victims), the death rates don't seem so terrifying. It's hardly bubonic plague.

Wuhan-Flu is not great, and those it kills don't die well, but it has been blown out of proportion. So much so that in our blind panic we may have hurt ourselves more than the virus ever could.
 

Doomsought

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It binds to human cells far, far better than animal cells. Like it was designed to do so. This was no zoonotic disease. This thing came out of a fucking test tube.
I can't think that it was meant to be a weapon, there would have been more security in place, at the very least to make sure the scientists could be killed before they leaked the warcrimes.

What I think took place was good old Chernoble style hubris and stupidity. They wanted to know what a zoonotic version of a covid virus found in bats would do... so they decided to make one, and do some experiments on it. Then containment was lost because of stupid.
 

Zachowon

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It is not a weapon and is not lab made, they were running tests in a biolab and it escaped. If it was a bioweapon why would they kill thier own people and potentially ruin face?
 

Iconoclast

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Obozny
It is not a weapon and is not lab made, they were running tests in a biolab and it escaped. If it was a bioweapon why would they kill thier own people and potentially ruin face?

I think it's exactly what it looks like. A gain-of-function SARS strain that was modified with multiple genetic insertions, which leaked out of a laboratory in an accident, probably back in October.

This is from a geneticist on 4chan who stated that it was very unlikely that you'd see the same amino acid sequence appear miraculously inserted in a coronavirus four times in a row:

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And this, right here, is cell phone data from the grounds of the Wuhan Institute of Virology:


Some kind of mysterious closure of the facility back in October. And they had the roads blocked off, too. No phones got anywhere near the building.
 

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