But which party partisan?
GOP is split 50/50, and DNC has majority pro-Ukraine but there's also some crazy left that's pro-Russia.
Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News
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GOP is split 50/50, and DNC has majority pro-Ukraine but there's also some crazy left that's pro-Russia.
Terthna
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In point of fact, I've grown a lot more critical of Russia; but that's not good enough for you people, is it? No; once you say anything that can be even remotely construed as being pro-Russia, you've forever forfeited your rights as human beings and deserve death, as far as you're concerned. You must be truly desperate for enemies; though why, I can't even begin to fathom.
Definition of PARTISAN
a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person; especially : one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance; a member of a body of detached light troops making forays and harassing an enemy; a member of a guerrilla band operating within enemy lines… See the full definition
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Vyor
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And there you go, making shit up.
Bigking321
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What if, hypothetically, a person didn't really care for Ukraine for years before this war because they thought they were insanely corrupt and the money laundering center of the globalists? That they were in the "bad guys" group for well over a decade.
Would it be okay for that person to feel kind of annoyed that just because some people really hate the Russians (completely justified) that makes Ukraine a part of the "good guys". And anyone pointing that out and wanting to stay out of it is a victim of Russian propaganda and a fool?
Kind of feels the same way as when the Canadian parliament were applauding a actual literal nazi from ww2 just because they were from Ukraine.
Like, come on Canada. I get not liking the Russians, but be careful who you declare good and applaud just because of that.
Vyor
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And then the current guy in charge of Ukraine started purging corruption to the point that Biden started getting nervous, remember?
Bigking321
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When was Biden nervous about Ukraine?
Do you mean when Trump started looking into the Burisma-Biden thing and the dems tried to impeach him for it?
If you mean something else I'm currently unaware of it.
Vyor
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That is, indeed, what I meant. He was working directly with what's his face on it.
Bigking321
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Sure. Trump was the president then. Plus Biden is a idiot and confessed in front of a camera.
But what came of it. They tried to impeach Trump for it and nothing happened to Biden. Full damage control mode.
Vyor
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Well, I'm sure more would have come of it if Zelensky didn't have a literal fucking invasion to focus on. Remember that he was investigating Burisma?
Bigking321
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Wasn't the war years after the Trump impeachment thing?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. He had years to investigate burisma but didn't and now can't?
Sure, he's got more serious issues now. Obviously. No problem.
And if he investigated them well and good but I don't remember anything coming from it. I'd be happy to be wrong. Arrest all those corrupt globalists laundering money to WEF causes all over the world.
Vyor
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How long do you think investigations and court cases take in civilized countries? Particularly when he's trying to get rid of corruption in his justice department.
Dude, yeah it is. This is just another "rules for me but not for thee" coming from the Left as far as I can tell. I think the man is a fool for simping for Putin like he does, but this is still a 1A issue, and yet another example of the Establishment going after someone they don't like. You being this way toward Tucker is no different than all the Lefties and other never-Trumpers being perfectly fine with the judicial corruption on display with the various Trump trails because "orange man bad." You shouldn't imitate them.When people ask for respect for 'journalists/journalism'.
Also, if Tucker Carlson violated sanctions in his actions/during his trip, he's just a as liable for those as any company or other person, and it's not a 'speech/1A issue'.
Vyor
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Since... when did he support not prosecuting anyone else if they did they same stuff?Dude, yeah it is. This is just another "rules for me but not for thee" coming from the Left as far as I can tell. I think the man is a fool for simping for Putin like he does, but this is still a 1A issue, and yet another example of the Establishment going after someone they don't like. You being this way toward Tucker is no different than all the Lefties and other never-Trumpers being perfectly fine with the judicial corruption on display with the various Trump trails because "orange man bad." You shouldn't imitate them.
There's more to morality than "good" and "evil", as much as DnD's alignment chart is memed "Law" and "Chaos" do deserve their place too.
Then your view on Ukraine is completely biased and worthless from even before the full-scale invasion started, and you have fallen for the trap of just seeing UA as a 'money laundering center' not a nation trying to get away from their former imperial master.
I was skeptical about Ukraine just before the invasion because I thought Zelensky would end up like the pres of A-stan during our withdrawal, and because I thought the whole UA military would collapse if Russia put their mind to taking Kyiv.
When Zelensky and the UA armed forces proved both those expectations wrong, that was all that was needed to get me onboard. What Russia has done since Feb of 22 has only proven time and again why Russia and Putin cannot be trusted and why UA deserves every bit of support that can be realistically mustered.
The issues with the WW2 UA vet who fought for the Germans is something where there is...very complicated, because many in UA helped the Germans initially because of what the Soviets did in the Holomodor, only turn learn the German's weren't going to be any better master's when it was too late.
No, if Tucker engaged in business transactions or funds exchanges with sanctioned entities, Tucker is liable for sanctions violations as much as anyone or any other group.Dude, yeah it is. This is just another "rules for me but not for thee" coming from the Left as far as I can tell. I think the man is a fool for simping for Putin like he does, but this is still a 1A issue, and yet another example of the Establishment going after someone they don't like. You being this way toward Tucker is no different than all the Lefties and other never-Trumpers being perfectly fine with the judicial corruption on display with the various Trump trails because "orange man bad." You shouldn't imitate them.
Why should Tucker Carlson be exempt from the sanctions rules?
Blasterbot
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I agree. people who buy food and fuel while in a country we are at war with when they are interviewing the leader of that country should all be gulaged. 10000 year minimum.
infact no 1,000,000 years dungeon. THIS IS UNNACCEPTABLE!!! HOW DARE HE TALK TO AN ORK!!!
infact no 1,000,000 years dungeon. THIS IS UNNACCEPTABLE!!! HOW DARE HE TALK TO AN ORK!!!
I mean, he willingly went, not on government buisness, to a country UNDER SANCTION by the US.
Exchanging USD for Rubles, which is a sanctioned currency, is not a good thing.
Do I think it entails sanctions himself? No.
I think it should have been anither issue entirely and he should be told he has to pay the USG the money he paid in Russia back.
Something simple.
Exchanging USD for Rubles, which is a sanctioned currency, is not a good thing.
Do I think it entails sanctions himself? No.
I think it should have been anither issue entirely and he should be told he has to pay the USG the money he paid in Russia back.
Something simple.
I severely doubt that's the real issue. Also, that isn't why you're cheering this abuse of power on.
Tucker had to get the rubles he used in the shopping trip from somewhere, and the ruble is a sanctioned currency.
It's not an abuse of power to hold Tucker liable for sanctions violations when he decides to go to a nation under heavy sanctions and engage with not only it's leader but it's local economy as well.
Carlson deciding to interview Putin was a bad idea to begin with, it pissed me off that he is so foolish to have done it at this point in time, and I won't pretend to clutch pearls over him being hit for sanctions violations from what he did on the his trip.
Vyor
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Or they just... believe that laws should be applied equally, without bias, and to everyone applicable?