Id like to note that biden created the precident that you can go after former presidents. Considering all the shit he's done I think going after him is warrented.
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Id like to note that biden created the precident that you can go after former presidents. Considering all the shit he's done I think going after him is warrented.
No point: not only is his failing health that bad, he's also degrading mentality to the point where he's a stereotypical Alzheimer's patient.
He'll be dead long before such an action can be taken, or if he does still live by that time it'd be irrelevant anyway, and the people puppeteering him will get off Scott Free to try it again with their next Democrat patsy/figurehead.
Oh there is a point to act as an example to the others.
The example would be putting a doddering old git on trial that wouldn't even be aware enough that he is on trial, while the people puppeteering him laugh from the shadows.
It's pretty much like the "trials" done to long deceased popes and other figures (putting their corpses on the stand after digging them up a hundred years later).
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
... Wait, seriously?!
DarthOne
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Yep, that actually happened.
Cadaver Synod: The Exhumed Corpse of Pope Formosus That Was Put on Trial
The 9th and 10th centuries AD were turbulent years for the papacy of Rome. Caught up in the political machinations of Europe, the Vatican saw a rapid succession of popes come and go.
www.ancient-origins.net
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Yep.
IIRC, but don't quote me on this, they also did the same thing to Cromwell a few dozen years after he was kicked off this mortal coil.
He started out as a hero, but by the end of his "reign", everyone and anyone wanted him dead so they could piss on his corpse.
That sort of spelled doom for Republicanism in the UK too unlike on the Continent, despite the barely-alive modern day parties and "movements" claiming that "Brits want a Republic!".
Pro tip: we don't.
Republicans are looked on as utter cunts to the point where MP's and other government officials keep quiet about such leanings because it'd be the end of their careers just as much as they being caught in a scandal would.
Edit: confirmed.Yep, that actually happened.
Cadaver Synod: The Exhumed Corpse of Pope Formosus That Was Put on Trial
The 9th and 10th centuries AD were turbulent years for the papacy of Rome. Caught up in the political machinations of Europe, the Vatican saw a rapid succession of popes come and go.
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We... really hated that cunt, lol.
Sergeant Foley
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Biden playing the "I didn't know" trick LOL 🤣
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Honestly, I'm at the point where I could actually buy that.
Not because I believe he's innocent, so much as how his mind has turned to mush and his mental faculties are almost gone — kind of like Nazi war criminals well into their nineties who don't remember the crimes they perpetrated in their youth. At the very least, he could probably play the "demented old geezer" act somewhat convincingly and get a slap on the wrist instead of the book to the face.
Terthna
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A lot of things get attributed to Oliver Cromwell that were either misrepresentations, misattributions, or never actually happened in the first place. He was far from perfect; but what hatred he gets is mostly a result of extensive and generations-spanning propaganda efforts from monarchists and the church to keep anyone from following in his footsteps, and threatening their power again.
Dunno if that's true or not -- there's a lot of corroborative evidence that says he did do a lot of the shit said of him, but either way it worked.
Republicanism is pretty much dead in the UK. We, well, love the Monarchy.
Terthna
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Which isn't surprising; considering that, ever since the end of the first World War, the British royal family did everything they could to get the people to love them. Thing is though, they don't actually have any power anymore (as Elisabeth II demonstrated by trying to exercise one of her supposed powers to help out Boris Johnson, only for her to be brushed aside like she didn't matter); Parliament are the ones actually in control of the government, not King Charles III.
A lot of soft power resides with the government, yeah. It has to in order for things to be kept running.
But here's the kicker: there's a hard stick the reigning monarch could use.
All the armed forces (including the Navy now, which amusingly they didn't 'have to' until recently) and police swear an oath to the Crown, not Parliament. Everyone. The reigning monarch can still veto anything that the government wants to do with the Armed Forces. Hell, they could order them into Parliament to arrest everyone there in theory. Reality? Rubber stamp shit and not even bother to interfere.
But the oaths are still valid -- the loyalty is to the Crown, not the government. They run it on behalf of the Crown.
Another big stick, and it'd never happen obviously, is that Charles could basically dissolve Parliament and the current form of government with a snap of his fingers.
Unfortunately, and again it'd never happen, with how much of a clusterfuck things have gone, many people were asking for the Queen to Thanos Snap Parliament a few years back -- and, yes, people were and still are that pissed at how ineffective and corrupt the Commons (and Lords) are.
But although it would never happen, it still could. A lot of the Republicans out there dislike this Sword of Damocles over Parliament's head. shrug
Wargamer08
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Power not regularly used might as well not exist. At best those powers exist as a technically to help you argue the legitimacy of an action you want done. You still need to convince people you actually have that power. Defacto, those powers don't exist, both because they're never used and they have no mechanism to enforce.
The UK king tells his troops to go break up parliament, as according to their 'oaths'. Any obedience would be due to how fucking terrible the parliament was at the time, the oaths or legalities would be at best window dressing.
True except for the last part: they would have to do as ordered, otherwise they'd face severe penalties (such as imprisonment or being booted out of the military). It's not something you can just turn down because you disagree with an order given in the chain of command.
That being said, it'd never happen. shrug I wish it would because Parliament and the whole structure it's based on is rotten and corrupt, but thems the breaks.
Terthna
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Considering the UK's current trajectory, it might be the only thing that could save the country from destruction.
Depressingly true.
People are fed up and angry.
We're fed up and angry with migration (these people are not fucking refugees, they're illegal economic migrants). Hell, some cities like London look like a fucking Middle Eastern bazaar now.
We're fed up and angry with the politically correct bullshit infiltrating the Police over here.
We're fed up with how Brexit has gone -- we had so many golden opportunities for trade with non-EU nations, and Parliament fucked them all up.
We're completely fed up with Parliament and the Lords.
And the funny thing is that the government is so far up its own arse that it can't see how much anger is building in the general (native) population.
Wargamer08
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It's not the king that controls those mechanisms of punishment. Likewise, is he really in the chain of command? When is the last time the monarchy exercised control in that way, issued orders even?
If the king and the prime minister issued contradictory orders who are troops, that is the say the local officers over the troops in most cases, going to listen to? Ninety nine times out of a hundred I would bet on the PM, with the exception being due to the terrible situation and not legalities.
Terthna
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Not if the king is loved, while the prime minister is hated; in that situation, one would think they'd choose to obey the former over the latter.
Your elites truely and epically fucked up Brexit, if you lot had simply ripped off the bandage you would have recovered from the economic damage by now and would have been able to negiotate with the US for a trade deal from a position of strength. Instead you guys dragged it out for years fucking your economy, and then you wasted 4 years of trump to negitoate a trade deal and 2 years of biden.
At this point the United states is going to fuck you guys on the trade deal you make with us just on the principle that you wasted so much of our fucking time.
At this point if you had a revolution and just fucking murdered the people who were in charge of you enmass and just mass ejected all of the woke bullshit it would end up being a step up for you.