United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[strunkenwhite]

I'm not being a doomer here, just an exceptionally embittered realist who no one will listen to and has no means to effect meaningful change.

Just for the record, what is the distinction you're drawing there?

this is the last year before the baby boomers retire and a global credit crunch happens, this is structural and built into the system. The good days are ending and we are running out of other peoples money.

I think things will be fixed but its going to take at least 80 years and millions of people will die horribly during the process.

Boomers are traditionally defined as being born 1946-64 IIRC. In that case, they have been retiring for a while now; the oldest of them are 74. The last of the boomers won't retire for a while yet; the youngest of them is 56. I agree that the boomer retirement wave may precipitate a crisis, but it won't be as sudden as "nothing has happened yet but this is the year!"

I predict that the crisis, if it happens, will either take the form of the oldsters in electoral rebellion against modest welfare cuts needed to keep the nation solvent, or youngsters in electoral rebellion against a gerontocracy taking the budget on a death ride. If the latter rebellion fails, I can believe that the consequences could be so dire as to take 80 years to recover from.

 

[Cherico]

More like learn the wrong lesson. I mean how many times has socialism and communism failed, for example, and we still have idiots arguing for it today?

I've met and known these people.

They are losers, no seriously if you look at their mentality they are losers they simply do not have that spark to compete, or have the ability to be happy with what they have. Under a socialist regieme they would have a few good years, maybe a decade with a really good economy to run into the ground.

Notice that in Vensula they had a few good years before they ran out of peoples money and started to have to eat litteral garbage same principle. This is a selection of people that would gladly murder every one around them, betray their closest family members, and friends, and run litteral death camps just to have maybe 5 years where they are personally successful.

They are some of the most profoundly selfish assholes you will ever met, and having worked as some one who served them food they are just plain horrible to the people who serve them. At this point every one knows exactly what the outcome is these people simply do not care.

So you know evil instead of stupid.

 

[DarthOne]

Just for the record, what is the distinction you're drawing there?

Well one is someone who's given up on change- the other is someone who still holds out for some small hope, but knows that people will need to get off their ass and its not particularly likely.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Finish building the wall.

 

[Cherico]

Finish building the wall.

its been a very profitable business this year.

 

[Arch Dornan]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/permanent-resident-hoped-biden-miracle-090507146.html

He'll come back later.

 

[Captain X]

Meanwhile, he's apparently going to write some EOs about gun control.

 

[Terthna]

Meanwhile, he's apparently going to write some EOs about gun control.

We all knew it was going to happen eventually. Now the only question is, how far is he going to try and push towards banning guns outright to start with?

 

[Captain X]

He'll probably sign an EO that says his assault weapons ban is in effect, and I'm hoping it gets tied up in courts right away. I only wished I had enough money to get an AR-15 while Trump was still in office.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Trump wasn't any better on gun rights, and Trump's statements on wanting to seize legal guns *first* and ban them afterwards rank among the most disturbingly extreme things any American political leader has ever said.

 

[Rocinante]

Trump wasn't any better on gun rights, and Trump's statements on wanting to seize legal guns *first* and ban them afterwards rank among the most disturbingly extreme things any American political leader has ever said.

Ultimately it's actions that matter more than words.

So I'm sure you can show me the EOs Trump signed banning guns?

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Biden hasn't actually enacted the EO yet, and there's been rumors that he was *going to* do so from the moment he was elected.

As to Trump, he *did* ban bump stocks with no grandfather clause, and substantially increased federal prosecution of firearms offenses -- as he himself bragged, to record levels.

 

[Rocinante]

Biden hasn't actually enacted the EO yet, and there's been rumors that he was *going to* do so from the moment he was elected.

As to Trump, he *did* ban bump stocks with no grandfather clause, and substantially increased federal prosecution of firearms offenses -- as he himself bragged, to record levels.

Biden is supposed to sign those orders. Today.

If he doesn't, then I'll admit I was wrong.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Biden is supposed to sign those orders. Today.

If he doesn't, then I'll admit I was wrong.

I'm not arguing that it's impossible or even unlikely, simply that people have been doom and glooming over Biden EOs for months at this point with no actual facts in play.

It's clearly not a priority issue for him, and I doubt it's going to be anywhere as extreme a measure as feared.

 

[Terthna]

I'm not arguing that it's impossible or even unlikely, simply that people have been doom and glooming over Biden EOs for months at this point with no actual facts in play.

It's clearly not a priority issue for him, and I doubt it's going to be anywhere as extreme a measure as feared.

You overestimate how extreme it needs to be before gun rights activists are justifiably fearful; the fact of the matter is that it's never just one or a handful of small measures, but rather merely the latest in a series of incremental attacks on the second amendment, which should have been stopped a long time ago.

 

[prinCZess]

'Take the guns first' was a very Trumpian, retarded thing to say. Because Trump's actual knowledge or ideological care for 2nd Amendment issues consisted of using it as a rhetorical device to get votes. The problem being the retarded 'take the guns first' thing is the mode of thought present in red flag laws that were the topic, and those both already exist in too many states and are now getting official federal support and push in Biden's EOs--alongside his appointment of a partisan hack Giffords-spokesman to be ATF director (who, in touch of more historical WTF-ery, was also a 'case agent in Branch Davidian trial'* IE The trial where the agency covered-up it's incompetence at the actual incident).

Ceterum autem censeo NFA esse delendam

*Page 4 here, a sheet introducing him to Congress for some of his Giffords testimony, I believe it is: https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110001/witnesses/HHRG-116-JU00-Bio-ChipmanD-20190925.pdf
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Although, y'know, the alternative is that stimulating the firearms industry is the goal. Guns going for over-MSRP and ammunition getting sold-out, with a lot of those guns and ammo (and the accessories) being American-made would make agitating against firearms an easy economic stimulus that doesn't even require federal spending.
Democrat party is in the pockets of the gun manufacturers. You heard it here first, folks.

 

[LindyAF]

I'm not arguing that it's impossible or even unlikely, simply that people have been doom and glooming over Biden EOs for months at this point with no actual facts in play.

It's clearly not a priority issue for him, and I doubt it's going to be anywhere as extreme a measure as feared.

lol, whenever any EO does happen you'll just backpedal "this isn't that bad actually you guys are just extremists!"

 

[Typhonis]

I thought gun control was racist? A way to keep poor whites and blacks from protecting themselves.

 

[gral]

Democrat party is in the pockets of the gun manufacturers. You heard it here first, folks.

It wouldn't surprise me - one of the biggest beneficiaries of Brazilian gun laws is Taurus, which gets to sell their crap in Brazil for thousands of bucks(or, even better to them, sell them to State Polices) with almost no competition.

 

[DarthOne]

I thought gun control was racist? A way to keep poor whites and blacks from protecting themselves.

it is, but either no one tells the voters that or they conveniently forget it when the Dems want to restrict the 2nd Amendment more.