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Oh I'm fine for it taking a few more weeks. Let them sweat it out as the realisation kicks in. The inevitable crawl towards justice and all that.
Justice is a slow and fine process. Let them take the time available to make this one count.

See, I wouldn't mind any of this, except that I fear the longer this goes on the harder it will be for the Republicans to keep up their momentum and the easier it will be for the guilty parties to sweep the evidence under the rug. Not to mention twist what's going on ever more to their own ends.
 
See, I wouldn't mind any of this, except that I fear the longer this goes on the harder it will be for the Republicans to keep up their momentum and the easier it will be for the guilty parties to sweep the evidence under the rug. Not to mention twist what's going on ever more to their own ends.

Understandable. But Trumps base takes their cues from him and those around him. If he's high energy about something then they go with that. So long as Trump can maintain then so can they.
 
See, I wouldn't mind any of this, except that I fear the longer this goes on the harder it will be for the Republicans to keep up their momentum and the easier it will be for the guilty parties to sweep the evidence under the rug. Not to mention twist what's going on ever more to their own ends.
You are not alone in your fear.

Let's try to keep our heads up for now.

There's very little we can do at this point except wait and see. So let's try to have hope that it'll play out and work out.

I'm being Stoic about it. The Stoics would teach us that at this point, it's an external and out of our control. What happens will happen. So I am trying not to stress about it either way.
 
538 votes in Florida =/= leads ranging from a few thousand in GA/AZ to hundreds of thousands in Michigina that will have to flip for Trump to win.
I don't even know why you are trying to troll anyway. You do realize how many State Legislatures the Democrats lost right. You do realize that a shit ton of Congressional House Seats are about to go by by in 2022 right. You do realize that by 2022 you will lose the House of Representatives right. But no keep on trying to troll and not understanding that lost big sport.
 
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I look forward to coming here around January 21sth
The system is illegitimate and rotten. That is all.

Your list doesn’t discredit that point. It confirms it.
 
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Yeah I saw this too. Not really surprising.

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Andrew McCarthy over at National Review said the same. It doesn't help Trump's case that there were, in fact, GOP observers when they initially claimed there weren't, and this was in front of a Bush-appointed judge. He may be able to get the late votes invalidated and I think the PA voter rolls showed something like 843 anomalies on the date of birth front, but I'm not sure that's enough to turn the tide. Though if it is, fine, but then that means he has to also show all three of Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan also had not only significant issues but actually resulted in the outcome being changed. And I honestly don't see that at this point considering how down-ballot Republicans performed.

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That's worst case but I think it's really unlikely. Loeffler's campaign had a second Republican siphoning off votes...if they all go for her, which is likely, that's 51 Republicans right there. And I'd expect the same for Perdue, given Georgia's history.

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This I disagree with. What ended up happening was it cost the Democrats swing districts and put the GOP in a position to take back the House because the Democrats were the ones being unreasonable. Likewise with ACB, it's a last-minute boost to his campaign because he actually followed a pledge.

Trump had the unique position of having relatively popular policies but being extremely irritating to a lot of voters personally. He wasted his time picking stupid fights (like with McCain's family, who are pretty popular in AZ) and also hindering his ability to hire good people into his administration. Him talking out of his ass on Twitter is one thing, it's another to do it while being president.

Meanwhile things like insisting he won in an Electoral College landslide in 2016 (he didn't, he finished in the bottom fifth) or making a big deal about the size of his inauguration crowds being bigger than Obama's (they weren't and anyway who gives a shit since he still won) instead of going "Well, I clearly have to win at least some of the GOP base back over" which would have helped.

Hell, if he'd been able to rein in his behavior for the first debate or spent his time at press conferences on something other than repeatedly insisting things would improve shortly or picking stupid fights, he'd likely have won.

In any case, rather that complaining about the need to "purge neocons" from the party (along with alleged 'RINOs' who just don't like Trump personally) maybe the focus should be on taking the good parts of Trump's campaign like outreach to minorities and figuring out an agenda with broad appeal to moderates and the right together? Instead of demanding 'purity' like the Democrats have over the past 20 years?
 

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