I still do not trust the dems, but that does at least allow them to if they have any that do not agree with doing something they can keep away from it
Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)
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Val the Moofia Boss
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What time does Trump present his evidence? I know he's going to be holding a rally at 8 AM PST but that's different.
I would say around 11
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
So, what do we think happens to the GOP as a result? I'm reckoning that schism between the MAGA hats and the Neocons is just going to get bigger and bigger, both sides blaming the other for the loss (although we all know who's actually to blame. Bloody cowardly, useless, RINOs). I do think the American Nationalists actually have the support and energy to eventually wrest control of the GOP, but there is also a chance they just abandon ship (especially if the Neocons maintain control) and found their own party (it probably wouldn't be led by Trump. He's a bit old for that now, but he'd likely be a kingmaker).
If that happens, hopefully it goes better than Bull Moose Party.
If that happens, hopefully it goes better than Bull Moose Party.
Megadeath
Well-known member
You shouldn't worry; there's no reason to think any such thing happened before so there's no precedent to worry about it happening now. And even when they do lose fairly, I'm sure we can count on trump trying to pressure officials to find votes for his preferred candidates a few months from now. On the down side, he'll likely have even less success once he's vacated his current prestigious address.
Hey @Vaermina I'm pretty sure you're wrong! If you'd like to cite any actual legislation you think it violates, we could always go through it together to see exactly why you're wrong?
Also, you never answered my previous post. I'd assumed you simply didn't have the time, but if you're posting I guess it's not that? Maybe you thought the truth of what I'd said was so obvious you didn't feel the need to concede? It's always best to be as clear as possible in this kind of discussion though, so if you're able to admit that you were wrong I think that would be great.
I think those two are the real losers of last night's election, they can't be happy about the insane amounts of pressure from all sides that they're going to be under for the next two years (at least).
Wow, what a fucking drama queen.
I mean when its this close, honest mistakes make the true winner almost impossible to know. So a recount is very reasonable.Mariannette Miller Meeks, the Republican Candidate for the Iowa City/Davenport district of Iowa in the state government won the election by 6 votes. Her democratic challenger, Rita Hart, is appealing to the Iowa Government for a recount and recertification, as well as engaging in Judicial challenges.
Iowa Democrat asks House to review 6-vote race, cites errors
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Democrat Rita Hart asked the U.S. House on Tuesday to investigate and overturn the race that Iowa says she lost by six votes, arguing that 22 ballots were wrongly excluded and others weren't examined during the recount.apnews.com
It is uncertain if the challenges will prevent Miller Meeks from being seated on the 30th of January as would be normal.
Largo
Well-known member
"Oh no, I am now basically the most powerful person in Washington DC short of Joe Biden and don't face election for another four years. Woe is me"
Planchar
Professional Propofol Pusher
Well Manchin doesn’t have to give a fuck about pressure from the left. West Virginia is a solidly conservative state that voted for Trump for over a 40% margin. A primary from the left is not going to unseat him. Manchin must know that if he folds to the Bernie Sanders wing of his party he will lose his seat.
The thing is that there already was a recount that affirmed Miller-Meeks as the winner
Isnt that a little hypocritical of you?
Greengrass
Well-known member
As I said before, Pence isn't going to do the thing he doesn't have the power to do.
Val the Moofia Boss
Well-known member
They're now counting the electoral votes
Arizona is objecting to the counting of their votes.
Counting has paused, each house is now deliberating on it
Arizona is objecting to the counting of their votes.
Counting has paused, each house is now deliberating on it
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We won't hear anything interesting for several hours at least.
As far as I know they just did the first objection and will debate it separately.
There are 5 more likely objections to happen after this.
Each time they will separate the Senate and house to debate.
This is going to go on all night. Each debate is supposed to be about 2 hours. We are looking at 12 hours from this point, before this is done.
Hmm? When had I acted like a drama queen?
Actually I dont think we're allowed to talk about it nevermind.
Prince Ire
Section XIII
Good going all you, "I hope the GOP loses in Georiga, we should openly tell people not to vote for the GOP senates candidate because they were insufficiently fawning over Trump post-election." I guess you can hope Manchin blocks any too crazy Democrat proposals. Maybe if the money uselessly given to Trump post-election had been given to the Georgia senate races instead, things would have turned out differently.
And now people are openly trying to storm the capital. Oh, joy. No, Trump didn't have the election stolen from him, he lost because a) he was president during a pandemic and rightly or wrongly many people felt he handled it badly, b) much of his staff was made up of people who didn't agree with his agenda, meaning they didn't push it and Trump himself didn't have the personal interest to push it, and c) Trump's kind of a bad politician and couldn't manage to curb his outbursts enough to keep enough moderate/suburban Republicans onside.
And now people are openly trying to storm the capital. Oh, joy. No, Trump didn't have the election stolen from him, he lost because a) he was president during a pandemic and rightly or wrongly many people felt he handled it badly, b) much of his staff was made up of people who didn't agree with his agenda, meaning they didn't push it and Trump himself didn't have the personal interest to push it, and c) Trump's kind of a bad politician and couldn't manage to curb his outbursts enough to keep enough moderate/suburban Republicans onside.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
We're not too fond of you either.
This thread is being locked until noon tomorrow or an admin overrides me. It isn't worth the aggravation that hot takes will do to tempers.
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