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Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

strunkenwhite

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And the Donbass?
It does not look like Russia has the strength of arms to deny the Donbass to Ukraine. And I have the impression that the Russian people are less invested in that area than in Crimea (so less opposition to, say, mass conscription in Crimea's defense).
Yeah, a return to status quo ante bellum, or close enough seems the most likely option to me at this point. Which would be a huge loss of face for Russia internationally, and putin personally at the higher levels, but probably something Russia can spin as at least partial success for domestic consumption. If they hold onto the land route to Crimea, that's even better for them. It'd also likely lead to plenty of violent unrest and rebellion in the newer occupied areas, both natural and encouraged, at least until Russia just murders or relocates everyone. They'd also continue to sit on the shitty end of sanctions, and possibly face even more escalatory ones. I think that's only going to be avoided if they return Crimea. The break away republics, if they were to conduct monitored elections and achieve a clear mandate for succession, might be something the international community would let slide. Ukraine maybe not so much, but how much they can do about it might be limited, especially by whatever form future security guarantees might take.
I will not be surprised if Ukraine and Russia accept an on paper status quo ante bellum, however I would expect it to be one that follows the model of the Vietnam War's Paris Peace Accords: short lived and everybody knows it, followed by a crushing defeat for the side that lost its backer. For the Donbass, anyway; I expect Russia to retain control of Crimea, and possibly negotiate water rights (that were being denied pre-war). Getting Ukraine to give up on Crimea and also give up on strangling Crimea would be a genuine win for Russia, albeit a very Pyrrhic victory at this cost.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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If that was the Moskva before it was sunk, I wonder what condition the Admiral Makarov was in before it (possibly) got hit...or what condition the rest of the Black Sea Fleet is in for that matter?
Grift and corruption is going to be the cause of death for many, many Russian's when the history's are written about this conflict.
 

WolfBear

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It does not look like Russia has the strength of arms to deny the Donbass to Ukraine. And I have the impression that the Russian people are less invested in that area than in Crimea (so less opposition to, say, mass conscription in Crimea's defense).

I will not be surprised if Ukraine and Russia accept an on paper status quo ante bellum, however I would expect it to be one that follows the model of the Vietnam War's Paris Peace Accords: short lived and everybody knows it, followed by a crushing defeat for the side that lost its backer. For the Donbass, anyway; I expect Russia to retain control of Crimea, and possibly negotiate water rights (that were being denied pre-war). Getting Ukraine to give up on Crimea and also give up on strangling Crimea would be a genuine win for Russia, albeit a very Pyrrhic victory at this cost.

I think that you might be surprised just how committed the Russian people could be to the Donbass.
 

ATP

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Major General Andrey Sukhovetsky was never confirmed officially and no funeral was given and he was in fact seen with Kadyrov 3 days after his reported death. Major General Vladimir Frolov is the only confirmed death with a videotaped funeral with full military honors and an open casket viewing.



We see a lot of it with the serials photographed so we know they are new caches. Then again you are either incompetent at your job or even worse, running an illegal pysops to shape public opinion of US citizens and elected policymakers.

The former calls for your dismissal and sacking as you are costing us wars and getting folks killed.

The latter calls for you to spend time in Leavenworth for misleading public officials into throwing equipment our own military needs, and can't easily replace nowadays, into a blackhole that won't change the outcome of the Russo-Ukrainian War. That is directly harming our national security and can not ever be tolerated.

I will let you choose which interpretation is correct. Either way you are a scumbag and a symptom of the greater rot in the US military that must be excised thoroughly with public examples made.



Wagner Group was founded here.



Another large batch of prisoners taken by Russia.



Russia fires 80,000 artillery rounds a day alone. Not counting mortar rounds, tank rounds, or automatic grenade rounds, that is a lot of metal. Discounting 30mm cannon rounds and lower calibers plus rifle fired grenades/stand alone grenade launchers and RPG rounds. No wonder Ukrainians are surrendering in increasing numbers and Ukraine has to bring in the Territorial Guard units that by law are supposed to stay in their local areas.



Russia showing no shortage of missiles. If they hate you that much, you'll eat an Iskander.



Forest clearing.


Thanks for another reply,it is nice to see that putin do not kill you yet.And - i like soviet propaganda,it let me laugh.Please deliver more - as long,as you still alive,of course.

So:
1.Only one general died,becouse Moscov said so.Idid not knew,that Putin is Necromancer - but,his soldiers are orks,so....
2.USA soldier who support Ukraine is traitor,but USA postman who support Russian war is patriot.I like your logic.
3.Wagner group is fighting there.So what? kgbstan need new 500.000 soldiers to take Donbass,not 20.000.
If they mobilized,they could do so.
4.Ukrainians soldiers are mass surrender,or die from artillery.That is great,but why your idols do not advanced more then km per day,then?

Here,about killed generals:

Of course,ukrainians could be partially mistaken,and it is 6-10 generals killed in reality,not 12.
But - that how differ ukrainian propaganda from kgbstan - Ukrainians take something which exist and made it two times bigger,or at least partially bigger.
Your kgbstan - they officially arleady deastroyed ukrainian army.Nice and dandy,but with who they fight? evil spirits,like in Marjupol?

P.S some of those generals could be killed by putin,not Ukrainians.He killes about 30-40 Moscov genarals before the war,after all!
 

WolfBear

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Let me explain it for you.

Mocking Ukrainian female war refugees, objectifying them as "meat", describing them as the sort of women you'd love to inflict your potential rape fantasies on....in addition to other disgusting comments you've made in not just this thread but other threads.

Does that clear it up for you?

He's not unique among pro-Russians in endorsing rape, unfortunately :(:

 

Tiamat

I've seen the future...

Agent23

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Let me explain it for you.

Mocking Ukrainian female war refugees, objectifying them as "meat", describing them as the sort of women you'd love to inflict your potential rape fantasies on....in addition to other disgusting comments you've made in not just this thread but other threads.

Does that clear it up for you?
Aww, ain't that cute, the pathetic White Knight is defending the honor of nazi larper hoes.
Playing keyboard warrior won't get you anything from them, try and search for their onlyfans. 😂

Also, you have been mislead, ask the admins why your first little white knighting attempt didn't work or check the relevant subforum, I have no desire to put my dick in or on mentally ill, nazi whores, turn them into pig food or fertilizer - maybe, decent enough thermal treatment should deal with any and all viruses, bacteria or prions.
 

planefag

A Flying Bundle of Sticks
Aww, ain't that cute, the pathetic White Knight is defending the honor of nazi larper hoes.
Playing keyboard warrior won't get you anything from them, try and search for their onlyfans. 😂

Also, you have been mislead, ask the admins why your first little white knighting attempt didn't work or check the relevant subforum, I have no desire to put my dick in or on mentally ill, nazi whores, turn them into pig food or fertilizer - maybe, decent enough thermal treatment should deal with any and all viruses, bacteria or prions.

Sometimes the worst people remind you why freedom of speech and anonymity is good - because without it they'd be forced to self-censor, and you'd never know what kind of fucking animal they were hiding underneath a facade of civility.

I wonder if he actually says shit like this in real life. If he's lucky someone's already clued him in that doing so isn't a great idea.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder
Something big is on fire within the Russian city of Kursk.



Two Guards Divisions Reportedly withdrawing from South of Izyum.



They allege its due to losses but it's obviously because Izyum was a feint.

As for the War of the Donbass...

Beautiful Landscape Picture with a disabled Russian T-72 tank as the pieces focal.



More Russian Armored Vehicles being put out to Pasture to Sleep.



More footage of Bayraktar Drones taking out SAM sites on Snake Island.

 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
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New aid package for Ukraine announced. Lotta artillery and some artillery radar.



More villages liberated near Kharkov by Ukrainian forces.



Video released by the famous Ukrainian Drone makers showing their products dropping munitions upon more Russian Armored Vehicles including a Tank that is Reportedly Destroyed.



Wagner Telegram Channel Needlessly DOOMING about How Russia Needs to Fully Mobilize to Defeat Ukraine.




How soon before Biden ships them the US's strategic reserve?

Still need to refine it somewhere into gasoline or diesel.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder
A Serna-class Landing Craft was Reportedly Damaged in a Drone Strike Near Snake Island, Apparently While Carrying a Tor Air Defense System on Board to Replace the One Already Destroyed by Earlier Drone Strikes Days Prior.



Nathan Ruser mapping out recent moves on the Izyum Front.



Some of the Russian Armor losses near Izyum, reportedly due to NLAW use.



Russian State Media Reportedly recycling old Wreckage to Make New Claims of War Losses for Ukraine.



Rest In Peace Yefreytor Bato Basanov who was part of the crew that won a 2021 Tank Biathlon Event. Now reportedly killed in Ukraine.

 
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Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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"Admiral Makarov" has not yet been summoned to "Moscow" but I have confirmation that he was hit by a PoKPR (anti-ship guided missile) right into the VLN chambers in the bow. They are fighting for the ship, we'll see if she reports as OP near "Moscow" :D
 

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