United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[The Whispering Monk]

It's why I love the idea of a Fair Tax. Straight up consumption tax with NO exemptions (biding everyone getting something like a Basic Exemption). No need for a tax man or preparer. You made $100,000? Great! Subtract $15,000 for basic living expenses, and pay 12% of the rest in taxes. (100,000 - 15,000)*(0.12) = Taxes due. Sign your card and return with check.

OR just pay the consumption tax at the register instead of having to deal with the IRS. I just prefer that everybody SEE how much money the government takes from us every year. It SHOULD be personal.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Biden's Bounty on your life

AAPS Association of American Physicians & Surgeons article the hospital incentives program under the CARES ACT published last week. I thought about putting this under the Wuhan thread, but it's specifically a Biden Admin policy so I dropped it here.

Initial quote: "Upon admission to a once-trusted hospital, American patients with COVID-19 become virtual prisoners, subjected to a rigid treatment protocol with roots in Ezekiel Emanuel’s “Complete Lives System” for rationing medical care in those over age 50. They have a shockingly high mortality rate."

 

[BlackDragon98]

Biden's Bounty on your life

AAPS Association of American Physicians & Surgeons article the hospital incentives program under the CARES ACT published last week. I thought about putting this under the Wuhan thread, but it's specifically a Biden Admin policy so I dropped it here.

Initial quote: "Upon admission to a once-trusted hospital, American patients with COVID-19 become virtual prisoners, subjected to a rigid treatment protocol with roots in Ezekiel Emanuel’s “Complete Lives System” for rationing medical care in those over age 50. They have a shockingly high mortality rate."

Seems like the Spartacus Letter was correct about how ventilators and whatever meds they give you are actually designed to kill you.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Seems like the Spartacus Letter was correct about how ventilators and whatever meds they give you are actually designed to kill you.

Not so sure about ventilators, though they do some damage. The biggest problem is the drug remdesivir. It's been an absolute failure in its intended usage, and now is being pushed by the company in any manner they can to try and make their money back on it.

 

[BlackDragon98]

Not so sure about ventilators, though they do some damage. The biggest problem is the drug remdesivir. It's been an absolute failure in its intended usage, and now is being pushed by the company in any manner they can to try and make their money back on it.

Did you not read the article yourself?

"In ventilated patients, the death toll is staggering. A National Library of Medicine January 2021 report of 69 studies involving more than 57,000 patients concluded that fatality rates were 45 percent in COVID-19 patients receiving invasive mechanical ventilation, increasing to 84 percent in older patients. Renz announced at a Truth for Health Foundation Press Conference that CMS data showed that in Texas hospitals, 84.9% percent of all patients died after more than 96 hours on a ventilator."

Ventilators are one of biggest killers.

COVID wasn't effective enough, so they had to speed things up.

Rich Cabalists don't want the pensioners to enjoy their retirement.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I read it, however, it doesn't provide DIRECT evidence that ventilators ALONE are the cause b/c there's so much other screwed up crap happening to those patients. I will freely admit that they are a contributor, possibly even the primary reason.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Fucking phone browser. It blocked links I couldn't see your post.

 

[Captain X]

Honestly, if they have to put someone on a ventilator, they're already on death's doorstep because they can no longer breathe on their own.

 

[Rocinante]

Honestly, if they have to put someone on a ventilator, they're already on death's doorstep because they can no longer breathe on their own.

Yeah

The reason the ventilator death count is astoundingly high is that they were put on the ventilator because they were already dying.

They don't just hook you to a ventilator because you have COVID. They hook you to a ventilator because you're about to die because you can't breathe.

Now, I am open to investigations as to whether they actually make you worse, but this isn't some grand conspiracy to kill people. Do you know how many people would need to be in on that?

 

[Terthna]

Do you know how many people would need to be in on that?

I don't know; would it be more than it would take to cheat a presidential election?

 

[Rocinante]

I don't know; would it be more than it would take to cheat a presidential election?

Okay, so I work at a hospital, and have for seven years. I'm friends with doctors, administrators, directors, executives, nurses, etc.

People I know personally would need to be in on it.

They aren't.

This is just a nonsense conspiracy theory. There are plenty of real conspiracies going on. This isn't one of them.

When they intubate someone, they are trying to save the life of someone who is already on the verge of dying. these are people who can't breathe, and can't keep their O2 levels up to a safe percentage. And there is a lot of waiting and seeing if they start to recover before they intubate. They wait until they don't see any other choices.

Maybe later we will find out that it didn't help, or made people worse, but is not some grand conspiracy to kill people. These hospital staff members are trying to save lives.

 

[Terthna]

Okay, so I work at a hospital, and have for seven years. I'm friends with doctors, administrators, directors, executives, nurses, etc.

People I know personally would need to be in on it.

They aren't.

This is just a nonsense conspiracy theory. There are plenty of real conspiracies going on. This isn't one of them.

When they intubate someone, they are trying to save the life of someone who is already on the verge of dying. these are people who can't breathe, and can't keep their O2 levels up to a safe percentage. And there is a lot of waiting and seeing if they start to recover before they intubate. They wait until they don't see any other choices.

Maybe later we will find out that it didn't help, or made people worse, but is not some grand conspiracy to kill people. These hospital staff members are trying to save lives.

Do they have to be in on it though? I mean, if they're just doing what they think is best for their patients, wouldn't all you'd really have to do is make sure they're making those decisions based on bad information?

 

[Rocinante]

Do they have to be in on it though? I mean, if they're just doing what they think is best for their patients, wouldn't all you'd really have to do is make sure they're making those decisions based on bad information?

"Patient can't breath. Intubate to try to save life" isn't some new thing with covid

 

[The Whispering Monk]

"Patient can't breath. Intubate to try to save life" isn't some new thing with covid

What is new is incentivizing a specific treatment path that is itself completely questionable. Remdesivir was NOT designed to fight Covid. It was used as treatment for Ebola. It failed at it's job. Ivermectin is not designed to treat the cold virus, but it has proven anti-viral capability. The sheer push by the Federal Health services and the media to throw a perfectly good treatment and prophylactic behind a curtain borders on malpractice.

In fact, ANY treatment plan which does NOT go by the incentivized methodology is receiving similar treatment. Then toss in the 'waiver of patient's rights' and you get whole other problems. This is THE prime example of why we should never move to a nationalized health care program.

 

[Bacle]

The problem with the ventilators is that the nature of this bug means the blood isn't taking up enough O2, not that the lungs cannot get O2 into them. This bug is more a blood based virus than an airway bug.

So putting people on ventilators, which is the normal method for helping with O2, probably isn't doing much to help.

Doesn't matter how much air you try to force into someone's lungs, if the lungs cannot get the O2 into the blood like normal.

 

[Tiamat]

In other news…

Yes, some dumbass is officially calling for it now.

Liberal college professor suggests Biden 'declare war' on Republicans, compares them to Civil War slaveholders

Liberal college professor Heather Cox Richardson suggested that President Biden "declare war" on Republicans in an effort to combat what she claimed was the party's move toward authoritarianism, as well as distract Americans from his increasingly low approval rating.

www.foxnews.com

Beyond parody.

 

[BlackDragon98]

In other news…

Yes, some dumbass is officially calling for it now.

Liberal college professor suggests Biden 'declare war' on Republicans, compares them to Civil War slaveholders

Liberal college professor Heather Cox Richardson suggested that President Biden "declare war" on Republicans in an effort to combat what she claimed was the party's move toward authoritarianism, as well as distract Americans from his increasingly low approval rating.

www.foxnews.com

Beyond parody.

Declare war and then proceed to lose that war.

Just like Hitler and Napoleon.

Biden should declare war ASAP.

And then we can finally get on with cleaning up Western society.

 

[Zachowon]

Declare war and then proceed to lose that war.

Just like Hitler and Napoleon.

Biden should declare war ASAP.

And then we can finally get on with cleaning up Western society.

It won't be clean, and it would be the end if western society

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Yes, some dumbass is officially calling for it now.

I love how the idiots keep claiming conservatives are for authoritarianism...especially when their puppet is ACTIVELY pursuing authoritarian methods.

It won't be clean, and it would be the end if western society

Clean, definitely not.

However, I don't necessarily see the death of Western society. That really depends on the length of said conflict and how we come out of it.

 

[Zachowon]

I love how the idiots keep claiming conservatives are for authoritarianism...especially when their puppet is ACTIVELY pursuing authoritarian methods.


Clean, definitely not.

However, I don't necessarily see the death of Western society. That really depends on the length of said conflict and how we come out of it.

The western world would collapse and the world economy would follow