I find it highly amusing that it was fucking Obama that said that. Obama.Obama warned us not to under estimate bidens ability to fuck things up.
Guy was charismatic, but he was a shit President.
I find it highly amusing that it was fucking Obama that said that. Obama.Obama warned us not to under estimate bidens ability to fuck things up.
Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.By no means a personal attack here, but man this post didn’t age well.
Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.
My impression is that Hunter Biden was up to amazingly shady and corrupt shit, but that isn't a surprise to me. I read Bob Woodward's Peril talking about Hunter Biden roaming the streets looking for crack when he was supposed to be in rehab months ago so him being a corrupt idiot is not remotely surprising to me.
Trump meanwhile has the Ukraine shakedown call, the capitol riot, trying to revoke birthright citizenship, the botched reaction to covid, all of which strike me as reasons I would've voted for Biden over Trump knowing everything I know now. That's the "off the top of my head" stuff.
Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.
My impression is that Hunter Biden was up to amazingly shady and corrupt shit, but that isn't a surprise to me. I read Bob Woodward's Peril talking about Hunter Biden roaming the streets looking for crack when he was supposed to be in rehab months ago so him being a corrupt idiot is not remotely surprising to me.
Trump meanwhile has the Ukraine shakedown call, the capitol riot, trying to revoke birthright citizenship, the botched reaction to covid, all of which strike me as reasons I would've voted for Biden over Trump knowing everything I know now. That's the "off the top of my head" stuff.
Honestly, from what I've seen that goes on in that mainstream left wing (otherwise known as the regressive left) bubble, Hitler himself could rise from the grave and rape every single person on the planet to death, and even that wouldn't be worse than Trump's mere existence to those who refuse to see past said bubble. It's not about what Trump did, or what kind of person he is for them; it's about tribal loyalty, and ideology.Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.
The Hunter Biden stuff is exponentially worse.
We are dealing with treason, fraud, and mass murder on an unbelievable scale.
Honestly that strikes me as only a mild exaggeration.Honestly, from what I've seen that goes on in that mainstream left wing (otherwise known as the regressive left) bubble, Hitler himself could rise from the grave and rape every single person on the planet to death, and even that wouldn't be worse than Trump's mere existence to those who refuse to see past said bubble. It's not about what Trump did, or what kind of person he is for them; it's about tribal loyalty, and ideology.
You do recall that the Biden administration outright admitted that they had biolabs in Ukraine, and that they were worried about the Russians getting their hands on what was in them, right? It's not that big of a leap to go from that, to "Ukrainian bio-weapons".If I actually believed any of that I obviously wouldn't consider the Biden stuff comparable. But you're literally going "Ukrainian bio-weapons" here. Which is um, not a thing I believe is remotely possible and is clearly in the nonsense scale of "Trump is fighting cannibal pedophile cults who seek Satanic immortality" theories.
*blinks*
I wasn't expecting full Q-Anon here. Q-Anon fellow traveler maybe, but not full Q-Anon.
If I actually believed any of that I obviously wouldn't consider the Biden stuff comparable. But you're literally going "Ukrainian bio-weapons" here. Which is um, not a thing I believe is remotely possible and is clearly in the nonsense scale of "Trump is fighting cannibal pedophile cults who seek Satanic immortality" theories.
If I believed any of this was true I'd obviously be on Trump's side, but I um, can't. I'd believe a faked moon landing before I believed Trump was a messianic warrior fighting the evil deep state cult with the humility not to tell anyone about it. I am honestly very surprised I came across this level of claim here.
I have communicated directly with insiders. I DMed Andrew Huff, the former Vice President of EcoHealth Alliance, on his Twitter. He endorsed my version of the events:
This is not speculative, tinfoil-hat stuff. There is endless evidence.
Andrew Huff, the former VP of EcoHealth Alliance, has blown the whistle and stated that Peter Daszak told him directly that he was working for the CIA.
[*]NIH, DTRA, and USAID funded EcoHealth under UC Davis's PREDICT program. You can go on USASPENDING.GOV and see the exact amounts awarded.
[*]EcoHealth Alliance funded gain-of-function work in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
[*]Anthony Fauci perjured himself in front of Congress by stating that the NIH did not fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
There was a massive coverup orchestrated by Anthony Fauci, Shi Zhengli, and Peter Daszak working in concert. Most of the people who signed the Lancet letter decrying the lab leak theory were directly connected to the WIV.
Peter Daszak specifically instructed Ralph Baric, via email, not to sign the Lancet lab leak letter, fearing the obvious conflict of interest.
[*]There is smoking-gun, incontrovertible evidence that Moderna were directly involved in the creation of SARS-CoV-2. The virus's furin cleavage site has, as its reverse complement, a gene sequence that is only found in one other place in BLAST databases; Moderna's own patented MSH3-mutant cancer cell lines. Also, Ralph Baric, a colleague of Shi Zhengli at the WIV and Fauci's so-called "man in North Carolina", took delivery of Coronavirus mRNA vaccine-related materials co-owned by Moderna and NIH on December 12th, 2019, before most people were even aware an outbreak had occurred.
[*]Moderna claim they received the gene sequence for SARS-CoV-2 on January 11th, 2020, and made a vaccine from it within 48 hours.
Nathan Wolfe, the founder of Metabiota (which was funded by Hunter Biden and Rosemont Seneca), was linked to DARPA, EcoHealth Alliance, and Epstein and Maxwell, and was a TerraMar founding citizen. You can look at TerraMar's site on the Wayback machine and see his face right on it.
There is only one, inescapable conclusion. DTRA, USAID, and the CIA have exploited the Nunn-Lugar Act and the pretext of "disarmament" and “viral surveillance” to conduct illicit bioweapon research in foreign labs using private companies and NGOs as fronts for this work. This led to the creation of SARS-CoV-2 and the current pandemic. Worse still, the same people behind the virus are also behind the vaccines.
1. Why should I believe the Q-Sphere now when it has made consistently false and highly specific predictions about what will happen? Examples include specific dates for "The Storm" of mass arrests of officials and the return of John Kennedy Junior in Dallas, predictions which received mainstream media coverage and obviously did not come true. If they were wrong about these things, why believe that the covid conspiracy has more credibility?
2. Why specifically should I trust Andrew Huff, your main source, above and beyond a wide variety of other sources, many of which have no love for the Biden administration and are not paid by them? Why hasn't, for example, the rationalist sphere of the internet jumped on this despite their dedication to searching for the truth and antipathy towards modern institutions, or the libertarians who feel excluded by both parties, or other relatively neutral groups, or Mitt Romney, who ran for the Republican presidential ticket? Why are such a wide spread of people with plenty of motivation to gain credibility not endorsing this version of events? Why is the main faction that accepts this narrative the one so strongly associated with Trump and the Republicans?
3. How did this happen under a Republican administration that actively hated Fauci and wanted him gone? Why didn't Donald Trump's justice department uncover this and trumpet it as deep state corruption?
4. Why is Hunter Biden of all people the person with the smoking gun connected to all of this in his laptop? He's the fuckup son of a vice president who lacked real power. Why was anyone in this conspiracy working with this random drug addict with criminal connections? Wouldn't he have been vetoed for the conspiracy specifically because of the chances of his fucking up when the conspiracy is otherwise so widespread, powerful, and competent the mainstream media considers the claims completely bogus?
I'll assume this is all true.
This is the part where I start to get suspicious. Once again, why is this massively powerful conspiracy tied with random elected officials who had no power at the time, getting away with things under a hostile administration, and generally wielding immense influence despite being random health officials and scientists?
This is not dismissal of the gain of function-lab leak theory by itself. I find that possible but unlikely independent of this, and think zoonosis is at least highly plausible. But it doesn't directly follow from what we know. What you've proven is random guys think this is true, not that it is true. Random guys, even influential and respected ones, can believe false things or say things they know is false for any number of reasons.
This gets to the stuff I have a lot more trouble with. These are obviously a lot of specific facts that might be true or untrue, but don't really support each other. I don't see any reason that these justify the conspiracy above. I've got no way of understanding the furin cleavage thing or how fast the MRNA vaccine synthesis "should" have happened, much less the details of Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric's relationships with the possible conspiracy.
We have independently:
-A specific technical claim that many scientists dispute.
-The details of a technology that is claimed to be able to do exactly what they said it did.
-Random guys who were suspicious of the lab leak letter before it was published.
This might be Bayesian evidence, but it's not hard evidence to me.
On January 11, researchers from China published the genetic sequence of the coronavirus. Two days later, Moderna's team and NIH scientists had finalized the targeted genetic sequence they would use in the vaccine.
I have no idea what that has to do with the rest of it?
I want to reiterate I am trying very hard to give this the benefit of the doubt, but the whole narrative just doesn't click together for me in the way you're arguing it has to.
Putting all of these puzzle pieces together took two years of intense hyperfocus, being banned from SB, SV, and QQ, disowned and ridiculed by all of my friends, doxed, abused, vilified, and fired from my job for vaccine refusal.
Alright. I admit that it's just unpleasant to respond in too much detail right now. If I accepted everything you're claiming, my worldview would be pretty much broken up, and I just can't do that. You deserve to know why I am largely bowing out.
I cannot refute every point and detail you're using. I'm not an investigator or researcher who has spent as much time as you have here. I'm biased, and my biases lead me to just discount a lot of information you are presenting in good faith.
I am sorry this happened to you. I believe you're operating in good faith. I just lack the stamina and willpower to engage with you on the wide variety of very specific points which do not convince me.
In this field I concede personal victory to you. You have the stronger argument than I do. It's an act of cowardice not to engage fully and deeply with you. But I just can't go and re-examine my entire world based on meeting someone on the internet who has an elaborate, well researched theory.
I understand. This stuff is way, way too much for a lot of people.
It's almost too much for me. I've spent the past two years worrying nonstop about the lives and wellbeing of my friends and family. First, because I thought a lethal bioweapon was on the loose and was going to kill us all, and then, because I slowly started to realize that my own government was trying to murder me and everyone I love. I have dozens of new gray hairs, and some hair actually falling out from stress.
I begged and pleaded with my father not to take the vaccine, but he did. He had to for his job. His job he plans on retiring from in a couple years anyway.
A week ago, I had a dream that I was screaming over his ashes in a box.
I don't think we're all going to make it out of this alive, whatever the hell all this is.
Watch out for the 10-15 year range instead. 40 is a consolation prize in comparison.I honestly do not want to be alive in 40 years. I think shit is going to get a whole hell of a lot worse and I do not want to be around for the real bad times.
-and I see that the symptoms do, in fact, perfectly describe Joe Biden. It's official guys, first Mad Cow president!Why would you think that you have prions?
I mean, can you really blame anyone for not having a plan? I have no idea what I could even do. I've gotten the two Pfizer shots, and already have the weird side-effect of being magnetic in my upper body, and who knows what else? This is partly because I caught Covid anyway, likely the Omicron variant based on the symptoms I had. It's also entirely possible that I am still sick with Covid based on the sinus symptoms and shortness of breath I am experiencing. I have spent a fairly large amount of money on investigating this, mostly looking for signs of heart inflammation, and have come up with nothing. So what else can I do, other than to continue my original long term plans?