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I don't think Russia is capable of occupying Ukraine and Belarus while also invading Finland and Sweeden.
Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022
- Thread starter killerofa23
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I have better theory - Biden puppettterrs need discration,but Putin need to show,that he is tsar to all KGB dudes who thought,that they could become next Putin.
So,they agreed /Swamp and Putin? to get war which gave them everything they wonted - swamp would keep power,Putin would remain tsar,and that some russians and ukrainians die? who care? certainly not them.
That explain Putin behiavour.He should either do not attack at all,or do that next day after he gathered 100k army,without waiting for rest - Kiev would be his in this scenario.
Why gather all needed forces? Ukraina could not disrupt their arrival anyway.
Memes Go Into the Donb Ass Thread.
Ask and You Shall Receive
Post memes in the Donb Ass thread.
Took the day before off (much like the Russian Military hurr durr) because things were going so well but it looks like the thread turned a shade more shitty in the past few hours. Derailed discussions about the Normandy Invasion, Biden's Mental State, the Iraq War and whatnot has been shunted off to the Donb Ass thread.
Might make some new threads pertaining to certain discussions, if so you'll get automated notifications from the staff reposted here.
One thing I do want to bring up is all of the Spammy posting going on. Memes about this War can go into the Donb Ass thread as stated before but some issues as of now that should be nipped in the bud...
@49ersfootball Stop posting so much. Look at what Schro-Wehraboo is doing and Husky Khan is doing in that they are combining multiple tweets/stories into one post. Also stop spazzing in responding to 49er's posts, @FriedCFour and others. Also everyone can tamp down on the multiposting, IIRC @Agent23 had FOUR posts in a row. Learn to multiquote. Every post you make is pushing down what could be substantial discussion
This thread is about covering the Russian Invasion of Ukraine and the primary reason people are here is because they want to see what's going on about it. If you want to shit spitballs at each other over nonsense or other topics, there's an entire rest of the Forum to explore. This is for focused discussion on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine and things directly related to it.
So in short, Memes about the War can go in the Donb Ass thread, stop spamming single tweets or hot takes or sperging replies to almost every post and stop multiposting. If you prefer not to do such things, threadbans can and will be issued instead.
Meanwhile conversations that drift into other topics or are related to this discussion more tangentially then directly (like the Operation Fortitude Discussion or the Biden stuff) will be pruned as needed without penalty as before.
Cheers!
Now I'm off to Snake Island. 🍆🏝
EDIT:
New Thread Made About the US Biolabs In The Ukraine titled... US Biolabs In The Ukraine
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stephen the barbarian
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battle order has a quick tl;dr at the macro level
You forgot the part where they do at minimum weeks of urban warfare if they don't surrender.
Battle of Mosul (2016–2017) - Wikipedia
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Battle of Grozny (1994–1995) - Wikipedia
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sillygoose
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Question is whether the Ukrainians have the stomach to see their capital turned into Stalingrad.You forgot the part where they do at minimum weeks of urban warfare if they don't surrender.
Battle of Mosul (2016–2017) - Wikipedia
Both of these example cases are considerably smaller cities while at it.Battle of Grozny (1994–1995) - Wikipedia
Yup. Considering the current situation though, there is a meaningful chance they in fact do.
And on the other side of the equation, if Russians are willing to escalate this to that point.
Both the immediate and long term political consequences of them turning it into Stalingrad would be... considerable.
Did post this bit earlier... Supposedly Georgian volunteers are fighting on behalf of Ukraine.
But I saw this story as well today. I didn't post it earlier today because it was only about ten guys... and from BuzzfeedNews.
A Team Of American And British Special Forces Veterans Are Preparing To Join Ukraine’s Fight Against Russia
The 10 NATO-trained war veterans are taking up President Volodymyr Zelensky’s offer for people to join a new unit of foreign fighters for Ukraine.
www.buzzfeednews.com
History Learner
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Are you saying people were mocking you for saying an Invasion was inevitable?
I find that hard to believe.
Remember this, everyone else, when the same tired voices start trying to gaslight you again.
Like seriously, I think @Zachowon was the only person in the thread to accurately predict this outcome consistently.
Earned every fucking illiterate and incomprehensible bite.
Wish he was still wrong and all of the Putin apologist trolls were right though.
He was right if you ignore the numerous times within the past year he stated Russian invasion was imminent, including in the context of the post of mine you cite, just for that to not come true. Specifically in my case, even, you ignore that I noted before the invasion started off that the calculus had changed:
Why did I say that? In the leadup to the attack, the Ukrainians committed over 800 violations of the ceasefire, including the use of banned heavy artillery calibers. This was recorded by the OSCE monitoring mission, and thus isn't Russian propaganda; not recorded by the OSCE, but claimed by Russia and backed up by evidence is that Ukraine shelled Russia itself directly twice in the Rostov region, including one such strikes inflicting civilian casualties and property destruction. That obviously changed the political calculus in Moscow, and is backed up by circumstantial evidence; the timing of the attack minimizes the energy embargo threat for one and it followed weeks of allowing the NATO powers to reinforce Ukraine with weapons and resources when said NATO powers had already stated many times they thought the Russians were capable of going in.
In that regard then, I consider this whole thing to be a case of a self fulfilled prophecy. Pretty much everything alleged about this has been wrong, even if the central thesis became true; context matters, but you don't care about that because you'd rather score internet points with this passive aggressive posting.
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Seems like the media is going ham with reports about nuclear forces acting like a full scale war between NATO and Russia is imminent. Hopefully that doesn't become a self fulfilling prophecy.
History Learner
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No it remains a claim with exactly zero evidence; if the Ukrainians shot down two IL-76s full of special forces, it seems like the type of thing they'd want to get pictures/videos of for propaganda. None has come out precisely because it didn't happen; people would be well advised to stop believing what Kiev is saying because they've been consistently wrong and lying at every turn.
Snake Island 13? Turns out the audio is fake and they all surrendered to the Russians; Moscow released all the details, along with picture and video evidence to prove it. Ghost of Kiev? Literally a computer simulation they decided to run with. Seriously folks, when you're taking Ukrainian claims at face value, start questioning why their "victories" are closer and closer to Kiev, Kharkov, etc.
Finally, and this is the most obvious one to me, why exactly would two IL-76s be shot down in this area when the Ukrainians supposedly re-took the airfield they were flying to (Hostomel) many hours before? Logically, they have to be lying at least about one.
History Learner
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That's literally a fake screenshot posted on Twitter, where's the original TASS report?
Have any of you read beyond the one thing and checked out the thread?
No?
Huh wonder why.
Also, the Russians have literally lied about everu single thing.
Should o mention you can monitor Russian un encrypted radio nets?
DarthOne
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Let’s hope so. It’d be a really embarrassing reason to have WW3.
History Learner
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The Russians lie about everything.....so we're going to take TASS, the official Russian news source, at face value? Yeah, nah, we ain't playing these games dude, post the original report.
But again, I seem to he the only one doing research instead of sucking off Putin
History Learner
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You posted a Tweet, I asked for the TASS report not a screenshot allegedly from it. You're playing games because you know it's false and you're lying.