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Basileus_Komnenos

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That face when you will never see something as grand as the Imperial Civil War adapted into a movie.
If Hollywood actually had talent and brains, they could pull off a GOT style show with all the political intrigue going on. It would also help to flesh out the Empire as an actual entity and humanize the people within it as the Galaxy fragments in the wake of the Battle of Yavin.

Instead Hollywood is full of weird woke-cultists pushing their deranged ideology to virtue signal and try to compensate for how creatively bankrupt they are.
 

Laskar

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If Hollywood actually had talent and brains, they could pull off a GOT style show with all the political intrigue going on. It would also help to flesh out the Empire as an actual entity and humanize the people within it as the Galaxy fragments in the wake of the Battle of Yavin.

Instead Hollywood is full of weird woke-cultists pushing their deranged ideology to virtue signal and try to compensate for how creatively bankrupt they are.
Give me a story like Death of Stalin, but played seriously. Palpatine is dead, the Grand Moffs are ascendant, and the vibro-knives are coming out because there can be only one Emperor. Our 'protagonist' is a Grand Moff who just wants to get the issue of the Emperor's throne decided as fast as possible so he can go back to crushing the rebellion. He has ideas about presenting himself as a reformer who will repeal Palpatine's most oppressive edicts and restore some semblance of the Galactic Senate that will still leave the Emperor and the Moffs in charge, but he is upstaged by another Moff who goes public with that idea first. And that other Moff has something like two or three genocided sapient species under his belt, so he can't be too sincere.

This public posturing quickly escalates to bureaucratic power grabs and assassinations and spills out into civil war by the third season.

But that's the B-plot.

The A-plot is a mid-level Imperial administrator who is simply trying to survive the power grabs and the shifting loyalties of his superiors. More important than that, his daughter is Force-sensitive. The Inquisitors discover this, and they have their own cards that they want to play.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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I won't lie, I like the over-the-top style of that anime anthology. It feels like Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and might have a similiar justification. Also, that light-umbrella is freaking badass and I want to see more of that Yoda-Palpatine evil master. He has a cool design imo.
Give me a story like Death of Stalin, but played seriously. Palpatine is dead, the Grand Moffs are ascendant, and the vibro-knives are coming out because there can be only one Emperor. Our 'protagonist' is a Grand Moff who just wants to get the issue of the Emperor's throne decided as fast as possible so he can go back to crushing the rebellion. He has ideas about presenting himself as a reformer who will repeal Palpatine's most oppressive edicts and restore some semblance of the Galactic Senate that will still leave the Emperor and the Moffs in charge, but he is upstaged by another Moff who goes public with that idea first. And that other Moff has something like two or three genocided sapient species under his belt, so he can't be too sincere.

This public posturing quickly escalates to bureaucratic power grabs and assassinations and spills out into civil war by the third season.

But that's the B-plot.

The A-plot is a mid-level Imperial administrator who is simply trying to survive the power grabs and the shifting loyalties of his superiors. More important than that, his daughter is Force-sensitive. The Inquisitors discover this, and they have their own cards that they want to play.
I like it. Especially if the farce comes out at full force like, say, the "pacification" of Coruscant while inside the palace the moffs are trying to pass the blame and claim any positive results for themselves.
 

Terthna

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It honestly isn't that bad.
The style isn't for everyone but i like the lighter shades of it.
It's not, but good luck telling someone like Razorfist that; the guy has a massive hate boner for most (excluding the stuff he has nostalgia for from his childhood) Japanese media (because it's popular, you see; which means that, as he's a massive hipster, he has to hate it) and anything that looks even vaguely like it. Seriously; dig through his social media, and you'll find him throwing a childish tantrum every time the subject comes up, as he insists that all anime, manga, and Japanese video games are trash (as are the people who enjoy them), and vastly inferior to whatever obscure (often European) work he's managed to dig up recently.

It's enough to make one glad that he mostly abandoned making videos about such things, in favor of politics. Because honestly? The guy treats people who likes things he doesn't, exactly the same as he does the jerks who are running this country into the ground.
 

Bacle

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You know what Star Wars story would fit well in an anime style:

The Crystal Star :devilish:

Yes, I mentioned the taboo book. Otherspace and Waru's shit are vastly under appreciated for how...interesting the plots are.
 

Zachowon

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It's not, but good luck telling someone like Razorfist that; the guy has a massive hate boner for most (excluding the stuff he has nostalgia for from his childhood) Japanese media (because it's popular, you see; which means that, as he's a massive hipster, he has to hate it) and anything that looks even vaguely like it. Seriously; dig through his social media, and you'll find him throwing a childish tantrum every time the subject comes up, as he insists that all anime, manga, and Japanese video games are trash (as are the people who enjoy them), and vastly inferior to whatever obscure (often European) work he's managed to dig up recently.

It's enough to make one glad that he mostly abandoned making videos about such things, in favor of politics. Because honestly? The guy treats people who likes things he doesn't, exactly the same as he does the jerks who are running this country into the ground.
The guy is good at politics, horrible at his take on anything not political.
Me and you may not have the same tastes, but at least we seem to agree on some things
 

BlackDragon98

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Speaking about Star Wars and anime . . .

What do y'all think about this?

Excellent, good, so-so, bad, or terrible?



There's also a remastered version (made with the OG creator's permission of course) with different sound effects and music from the new star wars games.

Oh and BTW . . .

THIS WAS ALL MADE BY A SINGLE PERSON OVER THE COURSE OF 4 YEARS.
 

Terthna

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Speaking about Star Wars and anime . . .

What do y'all think about this?

Excellent, good, so-so, bad, or terrible?



There's also a remastered version (made with the OG creator's permission of course) with different sound effects and music from the new star wars games.

Oh and BTW . . .

THIS WAS ALL MADE BY A SINGLE PERSON OVER THE COURSE OF 4 YEARS.

I've seen that guy's work before; I watched his R-TYPE short years ago, and remember being fairly impressed by it.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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Speaking about Star Wars and anime . . .

What do y'all think about this?

Excellent, good, so-so, bad, or terrible?



There's also a remastered version (made with the OG creator's permission of course) with different sound effects and music from the new star wars games.

Oh and BTW . . .

THIS WAS ALL MADE BY A SINGLE PERSON OVER THE COURSE OF 4 YEARS.
Ah, that old gem; saw it when it first appeared years ago, but never tire of seeing it again.

Filoni and Fav need to find the guy who made it, and get him on-staff for their anime Star Wars stuff.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Ah, that old gem; saw it when it first appeared years ago, but never tire of seeing it again.

Filoni and Fav need to find the guy who made it, and get him on-staff for their anime Star Wars stuff.

I suppose that’s a practical reason to allow fan works to abound online: find talented people who you can hire to work on official, canonical projects (which a number of them would no doubt be honored to do).
 

AspblastUSA

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I suppose that’s a practical reason to allow fan works to abound online: find talented people who you can hire to work on official, canonical projects (which a number of them would no doubt be honored to do).

Oh totally, talent self-sorting is one of the biggest benefits to growing a flourishing secondary work market. From fan art to game mods to animations, you get to see a tailored portfolio of hundreds to thousands of people eager to work for you if given the chance.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Oh totally, talent self-sorting is one of the biggest benefits to growing a flourishing secondary work market. From fan art to game mods to animations, you get to see a tailored portfolio of hundreds to thousands of people eager to work for you if given the chance.

Indeed. Hopefully, the folks at Lucasfilm (and elsewhere) recognize that—not just insofar as protecting fan content, but also recruiting people who know how the fans think and have the talent to deliver.
 

Navarro

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If Hollywood actually had talent and brains, they could pull off a GOT style show with all the political intrigue going on. It would also help to flesh out the Empire as an actual entity and humanize the people within it as the Galaxy fragments in the wake of the Battle of Yavin.

Instead Hollywood is full of weird woke-cultists pushing their deranged ideology to virtue signal and try to compensate for how creatively bankrupt they are.

The way they had the Empire auto-destruct was absurd too. You know when Hitler gave his insane Nero decree calling for Germany to destroy itself since they'd failed the test of survival of the fittest? Nobody listened because it was, yaknow, self-evidently insane. Are we supposed to believe that the Imperials would in almost an exactly identical scenario obey the orders of a dead man? Esp. when these worlds are their own power bases since they're the provincial governors of the Empire?

The EU's power struggles and collapse into warlordism made actual sense, esp. as Palpatine had dissolved the only institution that could have unified the Imperial government and given it a shred of actual legitimacy.
 
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Battlegrinder

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Having only seen the trailers for the SW anime anthology, I'm not particularly interested. The animation and visual design in an of themselves seem fine, but the overwhelming impression I get is that it's another Halo Legends. Which, contrary to any impressions I might otherwise give off, was not good most of the time.

There doesn't seem to be an attempt to really fit into the SW setting (eg, the lightsaber katana draw) and instead they're just mashing Japanese media tropes into the setting regardless of if they fit. That's certainly something you can do, as that TIE Fighter animation did, but there's a difference between "Star Wars but it's anime" and "Anime but it's Star Wars". Halo Legends did the same thing, which was usually what undermined it.
 

DarthOne

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It's not, but good luck telling someone like Razorfist that; the guy has a massive hate boner for most (excluding the stuff he has nostalgia for from his childhood) Japanese media (because it's popular, you see; which means that, as he's a massive hipster, he has to hate it) and anything that looks even vaguely like it. Seriously; dig through his social media, and you'll find him throwing a childish tantrum every time the subject comes up, as he insists that all anime, manga, and Japanese video games are trash (as are the people who enjoy them), and vastly inferior to whatever obscure (often European) work he's managed to dig up recently.

It's enough to make one glad that he mostly abandoned making videos about such things, in favor of politics. Because honestly? The guy treats people who likes things he doesn't, exactly the same as he does the jerks who are running this country into the ground.

To be fair to Razor....a lot of Anime/Manga/whatever are pretty trash, especially these days. And quite a few of the Asian games/stories that are regarded as 'classics' by their fans are highly overrated IMO. Neon Genesis Evangelion and the Final Fantasy games, for example, seem to be often treated like they're comparable to the works of, say, Shakespeare or Tolkien, but have all the depth of a backyard kiddy pool.

Plus, given how over-saturated we are these days with crappy stories from both Asia and the west, I can hardly blame Razor for wanting to bring some of the stories that are older, more obscure or both back into the limelight.

His one man war on the Witcher fandom is a prime example of this.
(shrugs) I've seen some of his videos on the matter and I do think he has a point that the parallels between the Witcher and Elric series are unlikely to be the result of pure coincidence.

Then again, and full disclaimer here, I'm not actually all that familiar with either the Witcher or Elric series. I read some of the Elric books and picked up most of what I know about the Witcher from the occasional crossover fanfic and the like, most of which drew from the games rather than the novels.

And since Razor mostly focuses on comparing the Witcher Novels vs the Elric stories, I admit that while I do remember going out of my way to verify a few of items of interest he brought up, I didn't exactly go through the entire video trying to doubel-check everything.
 

Terthna

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To be fair to Razor....a lot of Anime/Manga/whatever are pretty trash, especially these days. And quite a few of the Asian games/stories that are regarded as 'classics' by their fans are highly overrated IMO. Neon Genesis Evangelion and the Final Fantasy games, for example, seem to be often treated like they're comparable to the works of, say, Shakespeare or Tolkien, but have all the depth of a backyard kiddy pool.

Plus, given how over-saturated we are these days with crappy stories from both Asia and the west, I can hardly blame Razor for wanting to bring some of the stories that are older, more obscure or both back into the limelight.
That's not really fair at all; Sturgeon's Law being what it is, the vast majority of everything is, has always been, and always will be, trash. Though at least some of that is influenced by one's personal tastes, and thus what is considered trash differs from person to person.

Razor's tastes are dictated by his inclinations as a hipster; so what he values first and foremost in media is obscurity. This isn't to say that those obscure things can't be good; it's just what he's biased towards liking. Which isn't what I have a problem with; rather, it's the fact that he tends to act insulting towards those who don't share his bias that aggravates me. Like or dislike what you want, but don't be a jerk about it.
 

DarthOne

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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic PS5 Remake is a REIMAGINING?

So yeah, seems they hired a very woke SJW to reimagine it for the 'modern audiences'.

So you can bet your bottom dollar that they’re going to make it woke as fuck and make all the male characters very flawed and toxic and make all the women strong and perfect.
 

BlackDragon98

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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic PS5 Remake is a REIMAGINING?

So yeah, seems they hired a very woke SJW to reimagine it for the 'modern audiences'.

So you can bet your bottom dollar that they’re going to make it woke as fuck and make all the male characters very flawed and toxic and make all the women strong and perfect.

Apeiron remake was the real deal until Disney sent them a cease and desist.
 

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