Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

[Spktr Alpha]

So...dead people who have been dead for years voting isn't fraud?
Machine glitches causing the wring votes to be cast? And a boat load of other evidence already shown....

"I have done a through investigation of my club....I've seen no wrong doings."

The MSM isn't something i'd call trustworthy.

Again. My opinionated observation watching the courts shut down the Trump Campaign's lawsuits. So unless the MSM is lying that there weren't legal challenges in the first place then whatever went on in the courtroom did not go in Trump's favor.

The Trump Campaign has the right to challenge it. Ask for recounts and other stuff. They need substantial evidence, again, not just tweets of claims of dead people ballots like the PhillyGOP has. Documents, testimonies, picture, videos, to show to the courts (and we are talking both state and federal courts). Few on this forum will trust the MSM and few on the sister sites are going to trust Bretibart, Fox News, etc.

And so far I am waiting for Trump to prove it in court.

 

[Duke Nukem]

 

[Chaos Marine]

I ... don't really see voter fraud.

Just checking the news the courts have mostly went against Trump, they need evidence that can stand in court and it has to be something besides social media posts and unverified claims.

Otherwise I'm pretty sure Trump lost because a lot of people didn't like him, liked Biden more, and were encouraged to get out and vote.

So I'm quite curious, lets forget the the many credible accusations of ballot fraud, voter suppression and clear meddling, the republicans have swept through the senate/house elections, lost no seats and in fact gained seats. Trump had multiple rallies where people flocked to them in numbers that made social distancing impossible in large venues. In opposition, Biden and Harris had rallies in which half a dozen people showed up if that and even gave out a victory speech in which there was a load of cars with no people in them and there was about a minute or so of a pre-recorded video playing with Biden not even being present that was cut out mid sentence. Yet you believe Biden collected enough votes to win?

Dude, Tariq Nasheed, a guy who's gut response to seeing a white person is to label them a "suspected white supremacist" has noted that the results are suspicious.





I don't want to sound mean, but are you trying to be wilfully ignorant or do you see a favourable result, accept it and move on?

For almost four years the Muller Report was being lauded as the death knell of President Trump, started with no credible evidence or testimony, just a blatant lie. You've had a handful of days with reams of provably shady activities and down right blatant cheating going on and you're just going to take it on their word? Really?

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Say, remember how the Mexican president and Trump clashed over the caravans and the wall being built and if anyone would support a Biden presidency, it would be him?

 

[Tzeentchean Perspective]

I think you quoted the wrong guy bruh. I ain't buying shit from the media.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I ... don't really see voter fraud.

Just checking the news the courts have mostly went against Trump, they need evidence that can stand in court and it has to be something besides social media posts and unverified claims.

Otherwise I'm pretty sure Trump lost because a lot of people didn't like him, liked Biden more, and were encouraged to get out and vote.

Well, that's sort of where the recounts and the discovery phase of this is.

 

[Spktr Alpha]

Well, that's sort of where the recounts and the discovery phase of this is.

I am anticipating a recount. That is fair and legal. Whether it will effect the final tally I don't know.

 

[Chaos Marine]

Last I've seen it was used in about 30 states, including all the swing states.

So there may be ballot fuckery on a massive scale, and not just in the swing states.

I can't wait for it to be proven that this is the case along with the active fraud. That there could be some six thousand votes per county or state, particularly at the swing states is more than enough to swing the election. People may try to pass it off as a glitch but to quote a CCP puppet and an old kiddy fiddler, "Come on, man!"

I think you quoted the wrong guy bruh. I ain't buying shit from the media.

And you are indeed entirely correct, I meant to reply to @Spktr Alpha. Please excuse my absolute boomer moment there, @Tzeentchean Perspective. I have edited the post now.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I am anticipating a recount. That is fair and legal. Whether it will effect the final tally I don't know.

It may not affect the results.

It will affect the tallies regardless. Even in states with low rejection of turnouts, like Wisconsin, you can expect about a .5-1% rejection of ballots at the minimum. If the rejection rate is higher this year...things could get ugly. For example, Wisconsin had 1.957 million votes by mail-in/absentee. A loss of 1-3% could easily result in Biden losing his lead, as it's just over 20.5k. 1% of the mail-in ballots is just over 19.5k. if Biden has far more mail-in ballots than Trump does, he could lose Wisconsin.

 

[Tzeentchean Perspective]

A-hmmmmmm.

For those claiming all the lawsuits are being tossed.

 

[Tel Janin Aman]

Even if they're tossed can't trump just take them to the next higher Court?

 

[Spktr Alpha]

So I'm quite curious, lets forget the the many credible accusations of ballot fraud, voter suppression and clear meddling, the republicans have swept through the senate/house elections, lost no seats and in fact gained seats. Trump had multiple rallies where people flocked to them in numbers that made social distancing impossible in large venues. In opposition, Biden and Harris had rallies in which half a dozen people showed up if that and even gave out a victory speech in which there was a load of cars with no people in them and there was about a minute or so of a pre-recorded video playing with Biden not even being present that was cut out mid sentence. Yet you believe Biden collected enough votes to win?

The bolded part. COVID makes it unsafe to have such large crowds. Biden was careful, he and Kamala chose to play it safe. Maybe that's why the leads are so razor thin since the Democratic Party wanted to be safe as well and didn't campaign in person. Trump caught COVID and if it's true there has been another outbreak with Mark Meadows being infected as well. There may be alot of people infected by COVID now due to Trump rallies.

A couple months ago there was a special election in Winsconsin and because mail-ballots weren't allowed there were lines of democrats to vote in-person. Jill Karofsky, a liberal, beat the incument.

When early voting in Virginia there were lines of people already waiting to cast their ballot.

BOTH sides spurred their people to vote and vote they did. Democrats don't need to have parades of pickup trucks with banners to be excited to vote.

It may not affect the results.

It will affect the tallies regardless. Even in states with low rejection of turnouts, like Wisconsin, you can expect about a .5-1% rejection of ballots at the minimum. If the rejection rate is higher this year...things could get ugly. For example, Wisconsin had 1.957 million votes by mail-in/absentee. A loss of 1-3% could easily result in Biden losing his lead, as it's just over 20.5k. 1% of the mail-in ballots is just over 19.5k. if Biden has far more mail-in ballots than Trump does, he could lose Wisconsin.

We will have to wait and see. I have doubts but it isn't over until it's over.

 

[Arch Dornan]

A-hmmmmmm.

For those claiming all the lawsuits are being tossed.

Who's he?

 

[Chaos Marine]

The bolded part. COVID makes it unsafe to have such large crowds. Biden was careful, he and Kamala chose to play it safe. Maybe that's why the leads are so razor thin since the Democratic Party wanted to be safe as well and didn't campaign in person. Trump caught COVID and if it's true there has been another outbreak with Mark Meadows being infected as well. There may be alot of people infected by COVID now due to Trump rallies.

A couple months ago there was a special election in Winsconsin and because mail-ballots weren't allowed there were lines of democrats to vote in-person. Jill Karofsky, a liberal, beat the incument.

When early voting in Virginia there were lines of people already waiting to cast their ballot.

BOTH sides spurred their people to vote and vote they did. Democrats don't need to have parades of pickup trucks with banners to be excited to vote.


We will have to wait and see. I have doubts but it isn't over until it's over.

True, he moved them generally outside in some cases but yeah, there is an issue with the coof though at this point, with a vaccine right around the corner and treatments for it refined, it's more or less safe at this point.

In regards to the mail in ballots though, what about those 100K + votes for Biden that were mailed in and the statistically impossible occurrence of them all being for Biden? States having more people vote in them than there were registered voters?

I have absolutely zero concerns about the election however. The fraud is coming to be uncovered and regardless of what the MSM crows on about, President Trump will have his four more years and perhaps if he's lucky, Joe will be stuck into a nursing home instead of a prison where there will probably be a lot of democrats going to.

 

[The Original Sixth]

The bolded part. COVID makes it unsafe to have such large crowds. Biden was careful, he and Kamala chose to play it safe. Maybe that's why the leads are so razor thin since the Democratic Party wanted to be safe as well and didn't campaign in person. Trump caught COVID and if it's true there has been another outbreak with Mark Meadows being infected as well. There may be alot of people infected by COVID now due to Trump rallies.

I don't see why that would have any affect upon outcomes. Nor does the logic really hold. Playing it safe would mean that they wouldn't do anything to excite their voters one way or another, hoping Trump would self-destruct or to avoid doing it themselves. The result of high turnout rates in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania is somewhat suspicious. Especially with Biden not getting as high of a turnout as Obama did on Ohio.

A couple months ago there was a special election in Wisconsin and because mail-ballots weren't allowed there were lines of democrats to vote in-person. Jill Karofsky, a liberal, beat the incument.

Lines of a lot of people. She won 55%. Not exactly a massive blowout.

BOTH sides spurred their people to vote and vote they did. Democrats don't need to have parades of pickup trucks with banners to be excited to vote.

Actual polling of the Democrats showed he had lower support than Hillary Clinton. Him beating Hillary Clinton's turnout would have been surprising. Biden beating Obama's turnout in states with odd discrepancies is suspicious.

We will have to wait and see. I have doubts but it isn't over until it's over.

It's not nearly over. There's less than a 1% difference in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If mail-in ballots heavily favor Biden, he could be in trouble as mail-in ballots could end up with high return rates. If that's the case, losing 2-5% of their mail in could cost Biden his lead. That certainly seems to be the case in Wisconsin and it may be in Pennsylvania. And would certainly be a crippling blow in Georgia.

 

[Duke Nukem]

 

[Arlos]

That one sound less like Fraud, and more like incompetence, also lack of formation on the equipment.
I’ll use the occasion to ask since I was always curious; why do you use electronic machine in the US for election?

 

[WyldCard4]

So I'm quite curious, lets forget the the many credible accusations of ballot fraud, voter suppression and clear meddling, the republicans have swept through the senate/house elections, lost no seats and in fact gained seats. Trump had multiple rallies where people flocked to them in numbers that made social distancing impossible in large venues. In opposition, Biden and Harris had rallies in which half a dozen people showed up if that and even gave out a victory speech in which there was a load of cars with no people in them and there was about a minute or so of a pre-recorded video playing with Biden not even being present that was cut out mid sentence. Yet you believe Biden collected enough votes to win?

In theory, sure. The exact reasons for Biden not having a crowd were, you know circumstances that had not happened in a generation involving a nationwide and global pandemic. He didn't want to press a crowd together, and Trump's always been very heavy on the "press a crowd together" tactic. I don't see anything inherently implausible about "people were scared and angry and voted in record numbers through unconventional means" as a story.

Is that what happened? My guess is yes, but I wouldn't be super surprised if in say, 30 years everyone looks back on it and thinks "oh yeah, that was the election where the Democrats cheated." A lot of emotions are raw right now so I'm not going to be very vocal about this, but I think the odds are relatively high that if any recent election went squirrely it was this one.

Like in 2016 I also suspect that while fraud might've decided the election on the margin, it's way more likely it was in the "ten thousand votes per swing state" category. The expense and energy to drive up the vote count in safe states, a ton of which would've had to fake split ticket votes to not be obvious (pretty sure the "literally redo ballots to Biden and only Biden" would've been too hard and pointless to fake as opposed to extra ballots) makes me think that this actually was a record turnout election with people voting based on "ahh, plague, make it stop" more than anything else.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

And in related news comrade Stalin has cured cancer, ended global warming and captured Satan. Because of his efforts stocks have rose 2000% all hail Comrade Stalin


Remember when the days when news media had a reputation for questioning everything?

 

[LifeisTiresome]

And in related news comrade Stalin has cured cancer, ended global warming and captured Satan. Because of his efforts stocks have rose 2000% all hail Comrade Stalin


Remember when the days when news media had a reputation for questioning everything?

The question is did was said reputation ever really true or was that just propaganda?

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Kamala and 'President-Elect' Biden has hijacked the airwaves displacing the Clemson vs Notre Dame game for a victory speech!!!