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Terthna

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I actually agree with you 100% on this one.

My signatures rarely match. I have crappy penmanship and it's different every time.

My votes probably get tossed out routinely. It's a shitty way to verify identity.



They're a perfectly ideal replacement.

Every criminal in history since we started recording them is in a database, and we haven't found a match yet.

That database holds more than criminals too. People may have gotten fingerprints taken for other things and added to that database.

No matches yet.

They are unique enough, that even if there was a duplicate here and there they'd be exceedingly rare and could be accounted for.

It's wayyyyyyy more reliable than what we do now.
You ever hear about Brandon Mayfield? The guy whom the FBI insisted was responsible for the 2004 Madrid train bombings, based solely on the fact that his fingerprints they had on file matched those found on a bag containing detonating devices? Turns out that was a false match; the man hadn't left the country in over a decade, let alone been to Spain. The government ended up having to offer him a formal apology, as well as a $2 million dollar lawsuit settlement. False matches can and do happen; expanding fingerprint matching to the scale of an entire national election would likely result in significant error.

That said, I agree; it is more reliable than what we do now. Though that's mostly because what we do now isn't reliable in the slightest.
 

Rocinante

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You ever hear about Brandon Mayfield? The guy whom the FBI insisted was responsible for the 2004 Madrid train bombings, based solely on the fact that his fingerprints they had on file matched those found on a bag containing detonating devices? Turns out that was a false match; the man hadn't left the country in over a decade, let alone been to Spain. The government ended up having to offer him a formal apology, as well as a $2 million dollar lawsuit settlement. False matches can and do happen; expanding fingerprint matching to the scale of an entire national election would likely result in significant error.

That said, I agree; it is more reliable than what we do now. Though that's mostly because what we do now isn't reliable in the slightest.
There may indeed be some matches.

Not enough to cause a huge errors that would allow wide scale electoral fraud.

Likely a small enough amount that the administrative overhead to correct for this would be quite minimal.
 

Isem

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Out of every criminal in the counties history? And in the FBI database it never matches? The FBI database that has every criminal on record in it?
That's not exactly as large a part of the overall population as you'd think. While the incarceration rate isn't the same as the rate of people who've had their prints taken it still comes out to around 716 per 100,000 of the population of the USA. Even with the caveat there are crimes which get your prints taken which don't see you sent to prison that's still a pretty low % of the population. The average person doesn't do something that results in them getting their fingerprints taken.
 

Vaermina

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They managed to spell 'district' two different ways in the first two lines of the filing (which define the name of the court), and it's wrong both times. It goes down-hill from there.[/QUOTE]
Cool, now I am sure you can explain how spelling errors have any bearing on the legal arguments made in the documents themselves?
 

Cherico

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Lets see helping china create their social credit system AKA project dragonfly, then you have face book being caught redhanded selling peoples information at a scammers convention, and now you have the last 4 years of fuckery. Pretty much every political fraction that matters populist left and right, and establishment doesn't like big tech.


The populists want jobs back home in America and doesn't like them for that.
The leftists don't like them because algorthyms don't pay taxes.
The right now hates them because they delibretly fucked with them for years now (Its at blood feud levels now)
And the establishment left understands that they cant let some one have this much power for long.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
Nah, there's a typo.

Clearly every single part of it is factually incorrect and can be ignored. /s

I really wish they wouldn't make little mistakes like that, as it isn't the best look in terms of optics. However, the meat of the argument is what truly matters. Some stressed typist making an error shouldn't be as important as some make it out to be.
 

Archmagnus

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The lefties still haven't caught on.

You ever noticed that when Trump tweets about something important, he makes typos as well? That's on purpose. The media and the left can't help themselves in pointing them all out. In this way, they spread Trumps message they would have otherwise ignored, to people who may have never heard it otherwise.

Same with the typos in the lawsuit. It gets people to look into it, maybe even read it by themselves.

Same with Rudy's hair dye. It gets people to look into the event where it happened, and listen to what he had to say without the biased media lens.

These little embarrassments had been working for Trump for years, and they are working for his team now.
 
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Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
The lefties still haven't caught on.

You ever noticed that when Trump tweets about something important, he makes typos as well? That's on purpose. The media and the left can't help themselves in pointing them all out. In this way, they spread Trumps message they would have otherwise ignored, to people who may have never heard it otherwise.

Same with the typos in the lawsuit. It gets people to look into it, maybe even read it by themselves.

Same with Rudy's hair dye. It gets people to look into the event where it happened, and listen to what he had to say witout the biased media lens.

These little embarrasements had been working for Trump for years, and they are working for his team now.

My thoughts exactly.
 

Isem

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I dunno about on purpose or not but if an OCR was employed that's probably the main cause of all that. Even at the best of times OCRs aren't exactly perfect much less if you ask them to read a lot of documents without having the time need to go fiddling with the OCR to try and make it read a particular character properly (and even then the damn thing still won't read it and you'll have to fix it by hand half the time anyway).
 
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This is a trainwreck of a pleading that includes redacted affidavits. She didn't file things under seal, she just redacted the affiant's name.

I predict she is going to get bounced out of court like Orly Taitz. The only evidentiary hearing is going to be on the motion to dismiss.

There are exhibits submitted without declarations. There are exhibits recycled from other cases who aren't even her witnesses. There are conclusory allegations aplenty without citations. There are complaints which have already been rejected by other courts. The reason people are making fun of the terrible quality of the text is that this often predicts the quality of the legal argument. That appears to be true here.

Please, by all that is holy, don't make me read any more of this thing.
 

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