Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

[Zachowon]

I mean what actual evidence is there that they have run out of fuel and food? A few POW's here and there that have probably been tortured and will say whatever they think will make it stop?

We have video evidence that they ran out of fuel at least once. A Ukrainian was driving past a Russian convoy that Halted because out of fuel. We then have captured Russian MREs that are expired.
We know TB2s have been targeting fuel trucks based of footage

I think it holds for a couple days, then collapses. The Ukrainians lack the tools needed to break out. Neither side has shown a willingness to fight to the death. They last a couple days, the Russians finish pinpointing all the important strong points and take them out, the rest of the defenders pack it in.

I doubt it will fall that quickly.
They Don't need to break out. Just need the Russians to give up fighting in a city

That and:

We are seeing pictures of single digit losses here and there, occasionally a spot where UkA AT commando teams hit a section. What we are not seeing is entire battalion groups annihilated.

This means the UkA is reduced to local counter attacks and is unable to make a large Corps Level Attack to push the Russians back out of the country and has limited ability to move.

The Russians on the other hand are pushing in their third echelons to deal the death blows now that the 1st and 2nd echelons have done their job in pinning the UkA and forcing them to fritter their reserves in local counter-attacks that are too weak to turn the tide.

And the rate of advance is still faster than the US in the 2003 Iraq War. Its also faster than the German rate of advance in Barbarossa. Chances are that the UkA will begin rapidly disintegrating in the next 72 hours.

It won't be that quick.
Hell. There is footage of Bucha that shows easily a large number of Russuan vehicles taken out in the streets. And a neutral group who likes to count has shown the Russians have lost more vehicles in thier invasion then the US did in Iraq.

I think this is actually a bad outcome for the US as well, Because it draws its attention away from the real rising threat that is China.

Eh, the military is more focused in both. And with the bad Russian army showing we may switch

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

Shouldn’t Ukraine have a better chance of repelling the Russian offensive now that they’re awash with Western military aid?

Though we may not want to admit this or not, this war might have effects on China’s BRI, and SE Asia as well, since those nations might be given a third option for their sugar daddy to speak. Vietnam for example, wouldn’t have to be forced to choose between China and the US, and the rest of SE Asia would follow.

 

[Zachowon]

Iran would beg to differ, so would some others.



Russia has a draft and a willingness to level places. It also will find collaborators and build them into an effective police force to do the dirty work for them.



Collaborators can always be found comrade. A little silver here and there, some lead here and there. Works like a charm.



Less than 5% of the Taliban operated out of Pakistan and the bulk were REMFs and thrill seekers. The majority of the Taliban stayed in Afghanistan and wintered at their home towns till the Spring. Pakistan is a useful scapegoat, but the reality is the Taliban took the countryside, built a vast network of supplies, informers, and secure areas with which to wage war. All right under the US's nose.

Mullah Omar hid within walking distance of a major US Base.



Remember all the Afghan Military Women stating how they would crush the Taliban?

Well they surrendered quite meekly when the Taliban actually shot back at them.


@Zachowon

The US was fighting a 3rd world militia masquerading as an Army. UkA is a Professional Force trained in Mass Maneuver Warfare. Losses were going to be heavy if the UkA didn't surrender. Hence the use of Eastern Divisions in the opening attack to draw out the UkA's commandos in local counter attacks that while looking good on Social Media, are militarily useless.

My point here was that UkA is unable to inflict a fatal blow to the Russians as it unable to mass a Corps Level attack and thus is being pocketed as they frittered their mobile reserves in local counter attacks on the first echelons and they were in turn flanked by the second echelons which pocketed some of them. Now the Soviets are committing the 3rd echelons for the deep battles.

The shambolic nature of the 1st echelon's attack was on purpose. The troops up till they were fired on, didn't know they were going to war. Not even the Brigade Leaders till they were given couriered maps from Division knew.

And if they didn't know, they couldn't post on social media and Ukraine couldn't do a mass mobilization which would have disrupted their economy. All the highly publicized drills also did the same thing by creating the impression the Russians were just rattling sabres.

This meant Ukraine would never be able to do more than local counter-attacks against Eastern Divisions and then perceive success and pursue, right into the traps set for them by the better prepared second echelons who had at most 8 hours briefing after the 1st echelons committed.

Now the main efforts are going in with full logistical support.

Yet it seems the ukrainians are targeting said logistical support

 

[ATP]

Big nationalists, wearing nazi simbols and not a single Kolovrat in sight.

I hope these nazi larping bitches get tapped harder by the Kadirovtsi and the DNR/LNR than Zhukov tapped Berlin...

Also, despite the Universal draft they still have such a large number of females, humm, sounds like these nazi-larping sluts are either there for PR or because there just aren't enough men to fight.

What nazi? did they come from naziland? GERMANS.
and no,it is not german symbol,but hinduist.Black sun,just like black swastika,existed there for thousend of years till german freaks in 19th century start interesting about it.

P.S since we are all uppose to be members of western cyvilisation here,please stop naming as sluts womans which you do not like.We are not in elementar school run by leftists.

Another thing - UE is not helping Poland economically - 80% of every Euro send here is coming back to germans.,and they get more from not paing border tariffs.
Only countries which EU help are germany,holland and MAYBE belgium.All others lost.

 

[Arlos]

So, I’ve seen picture going around of looters with their pants pulled down tied to electric pole, is it some kind of tradition in Ukraine?

 

[Zachowon]

People need to stop thinking every single time a symbol like that is used, it isnt passed down from somewhere else that used it

 

[Husky_Khan]

Shouldn’t Ukraine have a better chance of repelling the Russian offensive now that they’re awash with Western military aid?

Not unless they can generate an Air Force or missile force that can blow up those yuge convoys in the North of the country.

And then they still have to worry about how they can back the South and East which is decidedly flat and open.

 

[Bacle]

People need to stop thinking every single time a symbol like that is used, it isnt passed down from somewhere else that used it

Besides, I'm pretty sure that's a old style Nordic rune that was only co-oped by the Nazi's, like with many other things.

It does a disservice and injustice to the original culture behind the symbol to only link it to Nazi Germany.

 

[SchrodingersWehraboo]

Shouldn’t Ukraine have a better chance of repelling the Russian offensive now that they’re awash with Western military aid?

Though we may not want to admit this or not, this war might have effects on China’s BRI, and SE Asia as well, since those nations might be given a third option for their sugar daddy to speak. Vietnam for example, wouldn’t have to be forced to choose between China and the US, and the rest of SE Asia would follow.

“Awash”? How quickly is that stuff supposed to arrive, much less reach tangled front lines?

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I strongly suspect the Belarusian forces are being brought in to handle occupation type stuff.

 

[LordSunhawk]

OK, it appears that the Boot is having to step in once more, as people are getting a bit out of hand. While it is true that alleged neo-Nazi symbolism on certain Ukrainians is suspicious, that is not a perfect means of ideological identification due to the other potential meanings. Wishing rape and torture on people is very much against the rules, consider this a formal warning from the Boot to knock it off. By the same token, gloating over the presence of alleged neo-Nazi's and approving of their existence and ideology is against the TOS. Be cautious about such things.

This thread has been relatively good in that people are mostly behaving, please do not ruin it for everybody else.

 

[Bacle]

When did Putin sign a procument contract with Sienar?

This is some barely amateur tier propaganda.

 

[SchrodingersWehraboo]

When did Putin sign a procument contract with Sienar?

This is some barely amateur tier propaganda.

“We are commencing the demilitarization and deseparatization of the Outer Rim”-Emperor Vladimir Palputin on the eve of the Reconquest of The Rim, 19BBY.

 

[ATP]

And why would Ukrainian (para)military units wear a Hinduist symbol?
Perhaps they are all in the same Yoga club?
I am pretty sure that they are seeing it as part of the Austrian Hypster's symbology, not that of the Hindus.


They are whoring themselves out to an ideology that says all Slavs must be starved to death, that makes them whores in my book.

And yeah, the way the EU's rules are made, they give you 70% of the money for the project, then they make you buy materials for the project fulfillment from them, with local contractors and politicians pocketing a lot of the money that is not used for the materials.
We still nominally get more than we formally put back in, though.
Poland, though, got its structural fund money cut severely, so you might be net contributors at this point.

1.Considering ignorance of current generation,they could take it from yoga club,or rather video game.
2.germans not always and not all wonted starve slavs,not even NSDAP.and ,no matter what ,you should not name woman as slut.It is not part of our cyvilization.

Back to war - i bet,that Biden handlers and Putin arleady made deal when and on which borders war would end,so why be excited ?
As long as Putin rule,USA could not openly sell us to him,so let pray for his eternal rule - in KGBstan.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

When did Putin sign a procument contract with Sienar?

This is some barely amateur tier propaganda.

This is amazing, Like I hope someone was just trolling rather than this being a serious attempt at propaganda.

 

[Terthna]

Sure lemme see if I can dig it up.

Thank you; I stand corrected. I'd apologize to the guy's face for doubting him if I could.

With Russia's alliance with China, it's not as bad as it would be, but yes, the focus on Russia, when there's China (so, so, so much worse) is definitely a problem.

It remains to be seen what this causes in East Asia. This could have no effect, or it could cause countries there to start looking to the US for help (cause there's nowhere else to look when the opposition is China, as India's busy with Pakistan). But the way to successfully combat China is more likely to be a massive trade agreement (a la the TPP) excluding China, rather than some military alliance.

To be clear, there are legit reasons people (including me) didn't like the TPP (its secrecy, its selling out to corporatism, etc), but the basic idea of it, a big trade deal with east asian countries and the US, absolutely screws China. Trump killing that ultimately did help China, and is a chief reason Obama is not the worst president ever, as much as people (again, including me) justly don't like him.

I don't want to get into the TPP too much, but as far as I was aware, the TPP as it was designed would have benefited China at America's expense, if anything; that's one of the reasons I was against it.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Zachowon]

 

[Bacle]

Edit:
Multicam livestream of Kiev.

 

[King Arts]

I find that hard to believe. How many tanks and armored vehicles does Russia have in theater? If they had 10,000 if 800 are destroyed that is almost 10 percent of Russias armored forces.